“Anyone got the gods’ exact wording, there? For comparison, my home plane doesn’t have a spatial boundary in any direction and doesn’t spatially loop, but on the lower level of reality underneath that, there were limits on the size of structures that could exist and any two identical structures of entanglement were the same structure at that underlying level of reality. It didn’t actually contain an infinite amount of stuff; it was repeating at a lower level than space looping around. If Elysium is infinite, nonrepeating, contains arbitrarily large entangled structures, and everywhere comprises a similar positive density of realityfluid, that literally breaks the Law of Probability I know.”
″ - oh dear. Uh, I don’t know that, but I guess we can have someone look it up. ….why does it break the Law of Probability if there are planes that go on forever?” What a good thing for Keltham to be extremely worried about.
“Well, let’s say you have an infinite number of INT 16 wizard students, of whom an infinite number become 5th-circle wizards, what’s your chance of becoming a 5th-circle wizard given that you’re an INT 16 wizard student?”
“I don’t think all infinities are the same size though maybe they are in the relevant sense—wait, yes, okay, they are. Huh.”
“Right, so, the whole requirement of being able to say, here I am now, what happens to me next, the required premise of being able to ask if it is more likely that you see the coinspin landing Queen or see the coinspin landing Text, is that there’s entangled structures of realityfluid where your possible futures are entangled with your present and the amount of realityfluid making up your futures is such that you can have ratios between the amounts of realityfluid in entangled futures. Like, you want to say that there’s infinities you can draw ratios between, sure, but then you can just talk about the fraction that anything is of everything. Like, maybe for a really really large infinite universe somewhere that was among the simplest possible ones, that one infinite universe would be 0.00001% of the infinite Everything, but then you could just leave out the talk of infinity and talk about the fractions.”
“Anyways, not an urgent issue. I just note that it implies, in descending order of probability, that you misunderstood your gods, your gods lied, your gods have no idea how the ass some parts of Law work, or Civilization managed to get some parts of the Law truly incredibly wrong.”
“It seems unfair to your Civilization if they could be wrong based off a—factual thing about how a different universe than theirs works.”
“The crap I’m talking about is part of the border between universal truth and local truth, like, the universal truth about why there are any local truths or people inside those local truths to experience them. I mean, it’s not like math and local reality are two totally distinct realms, there’s a border where they meet. Knowledge about realityfluids always being ratioable sorts of things, since it’s knowledge about that border, falls on the universal side of ‘is that true everywhere’.”
“Like, there’s a difference between saying that this table is real—where it’s just being real here, and not being real over there or in dath ilan—and saying that since the table is real it’s necessarily ultimately made out of some stuff that is how real it is, and this stuff comes in ratioable quantities.”
“Oh, and if you’re wondering why everything I’m saying sounds like gibberish, it’s because we’re currently talking about ‘anthropics’.”
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