“Team red” is reactionary gender ideology group, the “reaction” portion being primarily against 3rd wave feminism. It’s a segment of the “manosphere” with ties to the Men’s Rights movement and Pick Up Artists. The ideas and values of the “Red” side here are rather similar to the views of old fashioned patriarchal conservatism, but more explicitly articulated and framed around the notion that feminism is the dominant culture (similar to how feminist thought often frames patriarchy as the dominant culture). Being reactionaries, they are of course aware of the distinction—in fact, they created the construct describing the distinction.
The notion of there being a Blue side is a construct of the Redpill subculture. While the Red side actively considers itself the “Red” side and uses “blue” to describe feminism, the majority of people who identify as feminists are unaware of this Red/Blue distinction because the “Red” side is primarily an internet subculture.
The “red” / “blue’ distinction is a reference to The Matrix. It is meant to imply that 3rd wave feminists, along with Western culture at large, prefers pleasant romantic lies to harsh biological reality when it comes to gender and sexuality.
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At the risk of seeming to take sides, I will say that there seems there are a few highly active users with reactionary ideas on Lesswrong who seem to think this rule is optional. (Which is not meant to imply that all reactionary users are doing this, or that only reactionaries do this, only that there is clearly an active group of reactionaries who is systematically doing this.)
Although, in this particular case, it’s also possible that people just thought that shminux’s comments would be hurtful for you to hear at this time.
Lots of good points here. In addition to the Matrix analogy (which, as you point out, is hardly a neutral way to frame the divide), keep in mind that in the US, blue and red are also the conventional colors of the left and the right.
We continue to have our little ‘reactionary paradox’ in that the census results show overwhelming support for feminism, but the discussion on the ground seems oddly ‘red’. As you have already suggested this effect might be partially explained by LessWrong’s fondness for contrarians.
“Team red” is reactionary gender ideology group, the “reaction” portion being primarily against 3rd wave feminism. It’s a segment of the “manosphere” with ties to the Men’s Rights movement and Pick Up Artists. The ideas and values of the “Red” side here are rather similar to the views of old fashioned patriarchal conservatism, but more explicitly articulated and framed around the notion that feminism is the dominant culture (similar to how feminist thought often frames patriarchy as the dominant culture). Being reactionaries, they are of course aware of the distinction—in fact, they created the construct describing the distinction.
The notion of there being a Blue side is a construct of the Redpill subculture. While the Red side actively considers itself the “Red” side and uses “blue” to describe feminism, the majority of people who identify as feminists are unaware of this Red/Blue distinction because the “Red” side is primarily an internet subculture.
The “red” / “blue’ distinction is a reference to The Matrix. It is meant to imply that 3rd wave feminists, along with Western culture at large, prefers pleasant romantic lies to harsh biological reality when it comes to gender and sexuality.
At the risk of seeming to take sides, I will say that there seems there are a few highly active users with reactionary ideas on Lesswrong who seem to think this rule is optional. (Which is not meant to imply that all reactionary users are doing this, or that only reactionaries do this, only that there is clearly an active group of reactionaries who is systematically doing this.)
Although, in this particular case, it’s also possible that people just thought that shminux’s comments would be hurtful for you to hear at this time.
Lots of good points here. In addition to the Matrix analogy (which, as you point out, is hardly a neutral way to frame the divide), keep in mind that in the US, blue and red are also the conventional colors of the left and the right.
We continue to have our little ‘reactionary paradox’ in that the census results show overwhelming support for feminism, but the discussion on the ground seems oddly ‘red’. As you have already suggested this effect might be partially explained by LessWrong’s fondness for contrarians.