Instead of purely focusing on whether people will use these powers well, perhaps we should also talk about ways to nudge them towards responsibility?
What if authors had to give reasons for the first 10 or 20 comments that they deleted? This would avoid creating a long term burden, but it would also nudge them towards thinking carefully about which comments they would or would not delete at the start
Perhaps reign of terror moderation should require more karma than norm enforcing? This would encourage people to lean towards norm enforcing and to only switch to reign of terror if norm enforcing wasn’t working for them
I already posted this as a reply to a comment further up, but perhaps authors should only be able to collapse comments at first and then later be given delete powers. Again, it would nudge them towards the former, rather than the later
For the 2nd and 3rd idea to work, the delay system couldn’t be based purely on karma as many authors already have enough karma to gain these powers instantly. There should ideally be to some delay in gaining access to the higher level features even in this case
One thing this has made me realize is that I think people are explicitly assuming Reign of Terror means “access to Delete-And-Hide”. Which is not actually the case right now, but which is a reasonable assumption and we should probably be designing the site around that being intuitively obvious.
(right now, Reign of Terror is just a text description, informing commenters what to expect. But it probably makes sense for users to only have Delete-And-Hide if their moderation style is set to Reign of Terror, and/or if they use the delete-and-hide feature, the give post’s moderation setting is changed to Reign of Terror regardless of what their usual setting is)
Delete-and-Hide requiring higher karma that other delete options also seems reasonable to me. (And regardless of whether it should or not, we should probably refactor the code such that it’s handled separately from from the block-of-permissions that grants the other deletes, so we have more control over it)
Instead of purely focusing on whether people will use these powers well, perhaps we should also talk about ways to nudge them towards responsibility?
What if authors had to give reasons for the first 10 or 20 comments that they deleted? This would avoid creating a long term burden, but it would also nudge them towards thinking carefully about which comments they would or would not delete at the start
Perhaps reign of terror moderation should require more karma than norm enforcing? This would encourage people to lean towards norm enforcing and to only switch to reign of terror if norm enforcing wasn’t working for them
I already posted this as a reply to a comment further up, but perhaps authors should only be able to collapse comments at first and then later be given delete powers. Again, it would nudge them towards the former, rather than the later
For the 2nd and 3rd idea to work, the delay system couldn’t be based purely on karma as many authors already have enough karma to gain these powers instantly. There should ideally be to some delay in gaining access to the higher level features even in this case
One thing this has made me realize is that I think people are explicitly assuming Reign of Terror means “access to Delete-And-Hide”. Which is not actually the case right now, but which is a reasonable assumption and we should probably be designing the site around that being intuitively obvious.
(right now, Reign of Terror is just a text description, informing commenters what to expect. But it probably makes sense for users to only have Delete-And-Hide if their moderation style is set to Reign of Terror, and/or if they use the delete-and-hide feature, the give post’s moderation setting is changed to Reign of Terror regardless of what their usual setting is)
Delete-and-Hide requiring higher karma that other delete options also seems reasonable to me. (And regardless of whether it should or not, we should probably refactor the code such that it’s handled separately from from the block-of-permissions that grants the other deletes, so we have more control over it)