Note XiXiDu preserves every potential negative aspect of the MIRI and LW community and is a biased source lacking context and positive examples.
I am a member for more than 5 years now. So I am probably as much part of LW as most people. I have repeatedly said that LessWrong is the most intelligent and rational community I know of.
I estimate that the vast majority of all statements that can be found in the sequences are true, or definitively less wrong. Which generally makes them worth reading.
The difference is that I also highlight the crazy and outrageous stuff that can be found on LessWrong. And I also don’t bother offending the many fanboys who have a problem with this.
Seriously, you bring up a post titled “The Singularity Institute: How They Brainwash You” as supposed evidence towards you supporting LessWrong, MIRI whatever?
Yes, when you talk to LessWrongers, then you occasionally mention the old thing of how you consider it the “most intelligent and rational community I know of”. But that evaluation isn’t what you constantly repeat to people outside Lesswrong. When asking people “What does Alexander Kruel think of LessWrong?” nobody will say “He endorses it as the most intelligent and rational community he knows of!”
To people outside LessWrong you keep talking about how LessWrong/MIRI/whatever are people out to brainwash you. That’s you being pretty much a definitive example of ‘two-faced’.
I even defended LessWrong against RationalWiki previously.
You have edited your posts in that thread beyond all recognition. Back then (your original version of your posts) I bashed you for unthinking support of Lesswrong and unthinking condemnation of Rationalwiki.
As I said back then:
The problem isn’t that you asserted something about MWI—I’m not discussing the MWI itself here.
It’s rather that you defended something before you knew what it was that you were defending, and attacked people on their knowledge of the facts before you knew what the facts actually were.
Then once you got more informed about it, you immediately changed the form of the defense while maintaining the same judgment. (Previously it was “Bad critics who falsely claim Eliezer has judged MWI to be correct” now it’s “Bad critics who correctly claim Eliezer has judged MWI to be correct, but they badly don’t share that conclusion”)
This all is evidence (not proof, mind you) of strong bias
In short your “defense” of LessWrong against Rationalwiki at that time was as worthless, as unjust, as motivated by whatever biases drive you, as any later criticism of LessWrong by you has been. Whether defending LessWrong or criticizing it, you’re always being in the wrong.
Oh, for pity’s sake. You want to repeatedly ad hominem attack XiXiDu for being a “biased source.” What of Yudkowsky? He’s a biased source—but perhaps we should engage his arguments, possibly by collecting them in one place.
“Lacking context and positive examples”? This doesn’t engage the issue at all. If you want to automatically say this to all of XiXiDu’s comments, you’re not helping.
I feel, and XiXiDu seems to agree, that his posts require a disclaimer or official counterarguments. I feel it’s appropriate to point out that someone has made collecting and spreading every negative aspect of a community they can find into a major part of their life.
Note XiXiDu preserves every potential negative aspect of the MIRI and LW community and is a biased source lacking context and positive examples.
I am a member for more than 5 years now. So I am probably as much part of LW as most people. I have repeatedly said that LessWrong is the most intelligent and rational community I know of.
To quote one of my posts:
I even defended LessWrong against RationalWiki previously.
The difference is that I also highlight the crazy and outrageous stuff that can be found on LessWrong. And I also don’t bother offending the many fanboys who have a problem with this.
Seriously, you bring up a post titled “The Singularity Institute: How They Brainwash You” as supposed evidence towards you supporting LessWrong, MIRI whatever?
Yes, when you talk to LessWrongers, then you occasionally mention the old thing of how you consider it the “most intelligent and rational community I know of”. But that evaluation isn’t what you constantly repeat to people outside Lesswrong. When asking people “What does Alexander Kruel think of LessWrong?” nobody will say “He endorses it as the most intelligent and rational community he knows of!”
To people outside LessWrong you keep talking about how LessWrong/MIRI/whatever are people out to brainwash you. That’s you being pretty much a definitive example of ‘two-faced’.
You have edited your posts in that thread beyond all recognition. Back then (your original version of your posts) I bashed you for unthinking support of Lesswrong and unthinking condemnation of Rationalwiki.
As I said back then:
In short your “defense” of LessWrong against Rationalwiki at that time was as worthless, as unjust, as motivated by whatever biases drive you, as any later criticism of LessWrong by you has been. Whether defending LessWrong or criticizing it, you’re always being in the wrong.
Oh, for pity’s sake. You want to repeatedly ad hominem attack XiXiDu for being a “biased source.” What of Yudkowsky? He’s a biased source—but perhaps we should engage his arguments, possibly by collecting them in one place.
“Lacking context and positive examples”? This doesn’t engage the issue at all. If you want to automatically say this to all of XiXiDu’s comments, you’re not helping.
I feel, and XiXiDu seems to agree, that his posts require a disclaimer or official counterarguments. I feel it’s appropriate to point out that someone has made collecting and spreading every negative aspect of a community they can find into a major part of their life.