The Modern and Postmodern movements in Western art are largely defined by their break from a lot of traditions.
And that is precisely the problem with them. They have nothing to them except rebellion for its own sake.
A lot of people seem to also think “Art” means “highly-involved production of images for the sake of creating scarce aesthetic value” and don’t like anything that fails to conform to those rules
If “art” doesn’t create aesthetic value, what’s the point of making it.
They have nothing to them except rebellion for its own sake.
In modern art, there hasn’t even been any real rebellion in a very long time. What we see is a pretense of rebellion by doing the same old tired épater la bourgeoisie act that has lost all its shock value many decades ago, or “creative” breaking of long-gone traditional norms. At the same time, these people would never dream of touching any real taboos of the present day, and are bending over backwards to signal their unreserved allegiance to every single respectable high-status belief—and their professional world is a dreary pyramid of bureaucratic patronage that makes the bureaucracy of a typical government department look free-spirited in comparison.
To take only one illustrative example, even in Catholic Church—an institution that is often considered as the very epitome of hidebound reaction—a preference for traditional church art and architecture is likely to mark one as a contrarian these days.
And that is precisely the problem with them. They have nothing to them except rebellion for its own sake.
If “art” doesn’t create aesthetic value, what’s the point of making it.
We do not agree on these things, and I do not highly rate either of our odds of being able to make headway in this argument in a rational sense. So instead I will aim for transparency of content:
And that is precisely the problem with them. They have nothing to them except rebellion for its own sake.
If “art” doesn’t create aesthetic value, what’s the point of making it.
In modern art, there hasn’t even been any real rebellion in a very long time. What we see is a pretense of rebellion by doing the same old tired épater la bourgeoisie act that has lost all its shock value many decades ago, or “creative” breaking of long-gone traditional norms. At the same time, these people would never dream of touching any real taboos of the present day, and are bending over backwards to signal their unreserved allegiance to every single respectable high-status belief—and their professional world is a dreary pyramid of bureaucratic patronage that makes the bureaucracy of a typical government department look free-spirited in comparison.
To take only one illustrative example, even in Catholic Church—an institution that is often considered as the very epitome of hidebound reaction—a preference for traditional church art and architecture is likely to mark one as a contrarian these days.
We do not agree on these things, and I do not highly rate either of our odds of being able to make headway in this argument in a rational sense. So instead I will aim for transparency of content:
Boo thing you said. Yay thing I said.
Your turn.