Primary piece of evidence against: Voldemort tried to kill Harry,
I don’t think we know that.
I’ve always thought it would have made more sense in the original series to have Voldemort purposely make Harry into a Horcrux.
If making someone else a horcrux transfers some of your power to them, that makes them stronger, and better able to defend your horcrux.
It starts to look like a mutual immortality defense league. A bunch of people get together making each other their horcruxes, so that they all can’t die without all the others being killed first, they all have an interest in protecting each other, and they conserve the power that they’d otherwise lose to the creation of the horcrux by contributing it to another member of the defense league.
We don’t know that Voldemort tried to kill Harry, but Harry has much less reason to doubt it than we do.
An Immortality Defense League sounds much cleverer to me than what we actually see if Voldemort was trying to make Harry into a horcrux, which is a guy making a horcrux out of the infant child of his own enemies. That sounds a lot less tactically sound than willfully perverse; of all the people he could have deliberately made into horcruxes, I don’t think he had good reason to single Harry out as being a good choice to ensure his immortality.
The only reason I can think that he would have had to single him out would be the prophecy, and that the sort of information where I would immediately wonder, in his place, if by horcruxing my own prophesied enemy, I would actually end up screwing myself over.
An Immortality Defense League sounds much cleverer to me than what we actually see if Voldemort was trying to make Harry into a horcrux,
I think so too, if I do say so myself. I hadn’t thought of the IDL until this thread.
Harry as a horcrux seems like a decent idea, though. If Harry were the only guy that could kill you, making it so that he can’t kill you seems like a good idea. Also, he has a bunch of horcruxes in objects. Diversifying your strategy seems like a decent idea to me. Making one of your enemy, who everyone else will be busy protecting, enlists them in protecting your Horcrux.
Also, I just thought canon was dumb having Voldie killed because Mommy unknowingly invoked some “old magic” through her love for Harry. Anything is better than that pap.
EY seems to be rectifying that, writing a more believable plot line. First, he offers a plausible route for Voldie’s destruction through intentional ritual magic by Lily orchestrated by Dumbledore. Second, I don’t think EY will have Voldie destroyed by the unknown thing he did to Harry. I think Voldie recognized Dumbledore’s ritual magic ploy and decided to go along with it and pretend to be destroyed.
Harry as a horcrux seems like a decent idea, though. If Harry were the only guy that could kill you, making it so that he can’t kill you seems like a good idea.
But he only has a prophecy’s word on that, and attempting to cash in on prophecies that way has a tendency to bite youon the ass (tvtropes links).
It’s been implied elsewhere, but I’m pretty sure that in HPMOR, Voldemort has specific plans for Harry that go beyond merely killing him, which included him deliberately being made into a horcrux.
Some evidence for this: the odd italicized text fragments in the early chapters (which Eliezer has emphasized), Harry wondering many times at the convenience of Voldemort’s supposed death, and repetition of the idea that Voldy should have a) known about sacrifice/dark rituals such as are involved in sacrificing yourself for somebody else and b) have had other, better, more guaranteed ways of killing Harry if that’s what he had wanted to accomplish.
Actually, further to that, I really think Voldy was intentional with the whole horcrux thing, as shown by the set-up of giving Lily the chance to escape. One possible reason for this is for Snape’s loyalty; another, which I consider more probable now, is that if she was going to die anyway it wouldn’t have counted as a sacrifice for the purposes of the (horcrux) ritual.
I don’t think we know that.
I’ve always thought it would have made more sense in the original series to have Voldemort purposely make Harry into a Horcrux.
If making someone else a horcrux transfers some of your power to them, that makes them stronger, and better able to defend your horcrux.
It starts to look like a mutual immortality defense league. A bunch of people get together making each other their horcruxes, so that they all can’t die without all the others being killed first, they all have an interest in protecting each other, and they conserve the power that they’d otherwise lose to the creation of the horcrux by contributing it to another member of the defense league.
We don’t know that Voldemort tried to kill Harry, but Harry has much less reason to doubt it than we do.
An Immortality Defense League sounds much cleverer to me than what we actually see if Voldemort was trying to make Harry into a horcrux, which is a guy making a horcrux out of the infant child of his own enemies. That sounds a lot less tactically sound than willfully perverse; of all the people he could have deliberately made into horcruxes, I don’t think he had good reason to single Harry out as being a good choice to ensure his immortality.
The only reason I can think that he would have had to single him out would be the prophecy, and that the sort of information where I would immediately wonder, in his place, if by horcruxing my own prophesied enemy, I would actually end up screwing myself over.
I think so too, if I do say so myself. I hadn’t thought of the IDL until this thread.
Harry as a horcrux seems like a decent idea, though. If Harry were the only guy that could kill you, making it so that he can’t kill you seems like a good idea. Also, he has a bunch of horcruxes in objects. Diversifying your strategy seems like a decent idea to me. Making one of your enemy, who everyone else will be busy protecting, enlists them in protecting your Horcrux.
Also, I just thought canon was dumb having Voldie killed because Mommy unknowingly invoked some “old magic” through her love for Harry. Anything is better than that pap.
EY seems to be rectifying that, writing a more believable plot line. First, he offers a plausible route for Voldie’s destruction through intentional ritual magic by Lily orchestrated by Dumbledore. Second, I don’t think EY will have Voldie destroyed by the unknown thing he did to Harry. I think Voldie recognized Dumbledore’s ritual magic ploy and decided to go along with it and pretend to be destroyed.
But he only has a prophecy’s word on that, and attempting to cash in on prophecies that way has a tendency to bite you on the ass (tvtropes links).
It’s been implied elsewhere, but I’m pretty sure that in HPMOR, Voldemort has specific plans for Harry that go beyond merely killing him, which included him deliberately being made into a horcrux.
Some evidence for this: the odd italicized text fragments in the early chapters (which Eliezer has emphasized), Harry wondering many times at the convenience of Voldemort’s supposed death, and repetition of the idea that Voldy should have a) known about sacrifice/dark rituals such as are involved in sacrificing yourself for somebody else and b) have had other, better, more guaranteed ways of killing Harry if that’s what he had wanted to accomplish.
Actually, further to that, I really think Voldy was intentional with the whole horcrux thing, as shown by the set-up of giving Lily the chance to escape. One possible reason for this is for Snape’s loyalty; another, which I consider more probable now, is that if she was going to die anyway it wouldn’t have counted as a sacrifice for the purposes of the (horcrux) ritual.