It’s also possible to right laws that allow for gay “marriage”, but don’t force, say bakers, to bake cakes for gay weddings. The way things actually play out suggests this isn’t actually possible in practice.
“In one of a dozen or so countries where X was done, Y also happened” isn’t even terribly strong evidence for “it’s not possible in practice to do X without Y also happening”, let alone “it’s not possible in practice to do anything in some reference class including X without something in some reference class including Y also happening”.
For another data point, there is at least one major European country where doctors are both allowed to perform abortions and allowed to refuse to perform abortions and the situation hasn’t changed much in either direction for decades.
Performing euthanasia (or, as in your other example, cooking kosher meals) doesn’t? Baking cakes for gay weddings does?
(FWIW, I don’t think that bakers should be forbidden by law from refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings.)
Thus it would make no sense to force doctors who aren’t trained for the procedure to perform it.
The fact is, I heard that in said major European country you sometimes get the same doctor refusing to perform abortions in public hospitals ostensibly for moral/religious reasons but who has no trouble whatsoever with them in their own private practice.
“In one of a dozen or so countries where X was done, Y also happened” isn’t even terribly strong evidence for “it’s not possible in practice to do X without Y also happening”, let alone “it’s not possible in practice to do anything in some reference class including X without something in some reference class including Y also happening”.
I’ve just noticed that the great-great grandparent comment was explicitly about that one country, so I’m retracting the parent.
“In one of a dozen or so countries where X was done, Y also happened” isn’t even terribly strong evidence for “it’s not possible in practice to do X without Y also happening”, let alone “it’s not possible in practice to do anything in some reference class including X without something in some reference class including Y also happening”.
For another data point, there is at least one major European country where doctors are both allowed to perform abortions and allowed to refuse to perform abortions and the situation hasn’t changed much in either direction for decades.
Performing abortions requires special skills. Thus it would make no sense to force doctors who aren’t trained for the procedure to perform it.
Performing euthanasia (or, as in your other example, cooking kosher meals) doesn’t? Baking cakes for gay weddings does?
(FWIW, I don’t think that bakers should be forbidden by law from refusing to bake cakes for gay weddings.)
The fact is, I heard that in said major European country you sometimes get the same doctor refusing to perform abortions in public hospitals ostensibly for moral/religious reasons but who has no trouble whatsoever with them in their own private practice.
Not really, at least giving someone an overdose of pain meds requires a lot less skill then performing an abortion.
It doesn’t. That’s why the government is forcing bakers to do it.
I’ve just noticed that the great-great grandparent comment was explicitly about that one country, so I’m retracting the parent.