I’m not Catholic and not specifically trying to explain a Catholic position. I am trying to justify it, however (without claiming that the justification is the one used by Catholics).
But sure, if you had argued that we should view marijuana use as approaching torture in badness, or even that the opposition takes this view, that would be responsive.
I find it difficult to imagine what pieces of evidence one could give for hospitals being like or not like a torture chamber. I also find it difficult to imagine that he’s seen or measured pain levels in many actual torture chambers in order to be able to meaningfully compare hospitals to them. In other words, calling it a torture chamber is an applause light, and doesn’t actually say anything more than just “there is unnecessary pain”, which as I’ve pointed out, I did respond to.
That is evidence for there being unnecessary pain, which I don’t deny.
Edit: I suppose that’s too strong. If the pain is part of a tradeoff against worse consequences it might be necessary. So change that to “that is evidence for there being pain that produces negative utility to the patients, which I don’t deny”.
I’m not Catholic and not specifically trying to explain a Catholic position. I am trying to justify it, however (without claiming that the justification is the one used by Catholics).
I find it difficult to imagine what pieces of evidence one could give for hospitals being like or not like a torture chamber. I also find it difficult to imagine that he’s seen or measured pain levels in many actual torture chambers in order to be able to meaningfully compare hospitals to them. In other words, calling it a torture chamber is an applause light, and doesn’t actually say anything more than just “there is unnecessary pain”, which as I’ve pointed out, I did respond to.
Will you now retract the downvote?
Have some evidence—medical professionals refuse end of life care
That is evidence for there being unnecessary pain, which I don’t deny.
Edit: I suppose that’s too strong. If the pain is part of a tradeoff against worse consequences it might be necessary. So change that to “that is evidence for there being pain that produces negative utility to the patients, which I don’t deny”.