I was just about to post a separate discussion query about something similar—would there be any value to audio forms of the sequences? I prefer reading… but the sheer volume of material to digest and the convenience of using “downtime” (particularly transit time) is quite appealing to me.
Would anyone like to comment on this? Or is it different enough to be it’s own discussion? I had similar questions myself re. whether I’m the one to do it ( I don’t know that my voice is particularly appealing over long periods of time!) and if such a thing would be of value.
You may want to make a new discussion topic for this question, this thread is old enough I doubt it gets many views any more. But IMHO, yes, more media options is always more better. :)
Thanks for the reply. I’m a bit unsure about this anymore. After wedrifrid’s comment, I gave a few open source text-to-speech programs a try, but didn’t really like the output. I tried it on What do we mean by Rationality and noticed right away that it’s hard to get, when listening, the “structure” of something like those first indented definitions.
I guess I’m now responding based on a completely different approach. Perhaps a human reader could add in slight prefaces to various sections, like, “We mean: Definition 1: Epistemic rationality… and also, Definition 2: Instrumental rationality...”
This might help. Still not sure if I think this project/suggestion would be feasible and if it’d actually be that helpful. For something more “intense” like going through the sequences, I wonder if audio format would allow for the same rate of comprehension as reading text. I’d love to use it when driving… but wonder how much I really retain when driving.
As someone that often listens to audiobooks while driving, I don’t find problems with comprehension, unless there is something that is taking up a large portion of my attention. As long as I can basically drive on instinct and muscle memory, I remember it as well as if reading it. If there is something that I have to listen to, or read, then I generally either stop the book, or go back.
One strange effect for me though is that if within the next week or so, I hear a part of the book, I can tell you exactly where I was at that time, though I can’t generally go the other way, and think of where I was in a book when I was last at a location. The brain is pretty weird/cool.
Hmmm. Interesting to know. I did listen to a lot of religious debates, but I’m not sure how to tell if I have great recollection. I could summarize the gist and certainly remember the overall points/strategies, though.
Debates probably aren’t the best for trying to probe post-listening recall, though. They’re all over the place and I’ve listened to so many on the same topic that they blur together.
Maybe I should just try this and see what happens.
Re. the knowing your location, that’s really cool. I can do something like that visually—if a quote struck me, I can remember quite long after where it is on the page and just riffle through keeping my eyes fixed on that part of each page and find it.
I was just about to post a separate discussion query about something similar—would there be any value to audio forms of the sequences? I prefer reading… but the sheer volume of material to digest and the convenience of using “downtime” (particularly transit time) is quite appealing to me.
Would anyone like to comment on this? Or is it different enough to be it’s own discussion? I had similar questions myself re. whether I’m the one to do it ( I don’t know that my voice is particularly appealing over long periods of time!) and if such a thing would be of value.
You may want to make a new discussion topic for this question, this thread is old enough I doubt it gets many views any more. But IMHO, yes, more media options is always more better. :)
Thanks for the reply. I’m a bit unsure about this anymore. After wedrifrid’s comment, I gave a few open source text-to-speech programs a try, but didn’t really like the output. I tried it on What do we mean by Rationality and noticed right away that it’s hard to get, when listening, the “structure” of something like those first indented definitions.
I guess I’m now responding based on a completely different approach. Perhaps a human reader could add in slight prefaces to various sections, like, “We mean: Definition 1: Epistemic rationality… and also, Definition 2: Instrumental rationality...”
This might help. Still not sure if I think this project/suggestion would be feasible and if it’d actually be that helpful. For something more “intense” like going through the sequences, I wonder if audio format would allow for the same rate of comprehension as reading text. I’d love to use it when driving… but wonder how much I really retain when driving.
As someone that often listens to audiobooks while driving, I don’t find problems with comprehension, unless there is something that is taking up a large portion of my attention. As long as I can basically drive on instinct and muscle memory, I remember it as well as if reading it. If there is something that I have to listen to, or read, then I generally either stop the book, or go back.
One strange effect for me though is that if within the next week or so, I hear a part of the book, I can tell you exactly where I was at that time, though I can’t generally go the other way, and think of where I was in a book when I was last at a location. The brain is pretty weird/cool.
Hmmm. Interesting to know. I did listen to a lot of religious debates, but I’m not sure how to tell if I have great recollection. I could summarize the gist and certainly remember the overall points/strategies, though.
Debates probably aren’t the best for trying to probe post-listening recall, though. They’re all over the place and I’ve listened to so many on the same topic that they blur together.
Maybe I should just try this and see what happens.
Re. the knowing your location, that’s really cool. I can do something like that visually—if a quote struck me, I can remember quite long after where it is on the page and just riffle through keeping my eyes fixed on that part of each page and find it.