Iunno. Screwing with the Muggle economy in non-legitimate ways would be genuinely hard on the scales the Malfoys would want to do it on. There might be some high-effort methods—insider trading based on reading the minds of CEOs, for example—but barring just Imperius’ing Bill Gates into giving you all his money (which would be widely publicized) there’s only so much they can do.
I think. I’ve given this all of five seconds of thought, there might be something creative (okay, there is something creative) they can do.
There might be some high-effort methods—insider trading based on reading the minds of CEOs, for example - but barring just Imperius’ing Bill Gates into giving you all his money (which would be widely publicized) there’s only so much they can do.
One can use time-turners so you know what the market will do in advance (making sure that for any given stock you trade in small enough quantities that it won’t substantially alter the asking price to avoid messing with time issues).
If magic isn’t limited by speed of light issues then one can send trading signals faster (already attempts are made to put computer systems as close as possible to get a jump on slower traders. How much this actually matters is unclear.)
One could apparate to and assassinate people who are in specific corporations or governments, being able to anticipate resulting economic problems and short-sell accordingly.
These are only the most obvious sorts of things, deliberately restricting to those that don’t add value to the system.
The thing about wealthy people is that they have accountants. Also, their assets are generally in the stock of companies they own, which means that they’d have to sell shares, which in turn triggers reams of insider-trading paperwork and income tax audits. You’d do better to do Time-Turner work on the LSE.
Except that observed information can’t be changed using the Time-Turners. So the scope of his actions are somewhat limited. Doesn’t stop him from being able to short a stock, but he can’t single-handedly cause a stock’s fortune to reverse. That still leaves plenty of possibilities to make money, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it sounds. He’d be mixing the complicated natures of stock trading and time travel, and that’s before he starts thinking about avoiding insider trading laws.
Check the exchange status, go back in time, buy stocks that are about to go up in price. He can’t stop them from going up in price, sure, but him buying is perfectly consistent. I expect he could get a few percent per day without even trying hard.
What world domination process are you imagining? Money doesn’t buy you power. It buys you bribes, and lobby groups, and campaign funds, and mercenaries for coups, and so on. With some creative thinking, any and all of those should be obtainable through a combination of magic, blackmail, manipulating the weak-minded, and other means already at Harry’s disposal (especially if he has someone like Draco to supplement the latter).
You sound like you think he doesn’t need capital at all. Why would Harry avoid using a resource that would facilitate reaching his goals? Wouldn’t the rational thing to do be to use the methods that accomplish your goals in an effective and timely manner?
There are times when solutions other than money would be more effective, and there are times when money would be more effective or efficient. So why should he eschew that resource just because he can?
They say ‘gold’, but they really mean Galleons. Especially given the wonky exchange rates, the Goblins must add more (or at least different) value to those than just a guarantee of purity and size.
Well, since the Goblins do agree to convert gold into Galleons for a modest percentage of the total, the point is moot—wizards will want gold to convert into Galleons.
Iunno. Screwing with the Muggle economy in non-legitimate ways would be genuinely hard on the scales the Malfoys would want to do it on. There might be some high-effort methods—insider trading based on reading the minds of CEOs, for example—but barring just Imperius’ing Bill Gates into giving you all his money (which would be widely publicized) there’s only so much they can do.
I think. I’ve given this all of five seconds of thought, there might be something creative (okay, there is something creative) they can do.
One can use time-turners so you know what the market will do in advance (making sure that for any given stock you trade in small enough quantities that it won’t substantially alter the asking price to avoid messing with time issues).
If magic isn’t limited by speed of light issues then one can send trading signals faster (already attempts are made to put computer systems as close as possible to get a jump on slower traders. How much this actually matters is unclear.)
One could apparate to and assassinate people who are in specific corporations or governments, being able to anticipate resulting economic problems and short-sell accordingly.
These are only the most obvious sorts of things, deliberately restricting to those that don’t add value to the system.
Imperius Bill Gates and a number of other wealthy people to give you 1% of their money.
The thing about wealthy people is that they have accountants. Also, their assets are generally in the stock of companies they own, which means that they’d have to sell shares, which in turn triggers reams of insider-trading paperwork and income tax audits. You’d do better to do Time-Turner work on the LSE.
Now, how did I miss that possibility?
Harry’s stinking rich anytime he wants, then.
Except that observed information can’t be changed using the Time-Turners. So the scope of his actions are somewhat limited. Doesn’t stop him from being able to short a stock, but he can’t single-handedly cause a stock’s fortune to reverse. That still leaves plenty of possibilities to make money, but it wouldn’t be as easy as it sounds. He’d be mixing the complicated natures of stock trading and time travel, and that’s before he starts thinking about avoiding insider trading laws.
It’s pretty easy, isn’t it?
Check the exchange status, go back in time, buy stocks that are about to go up in price. He can’t stop them from going up in price, sure, but him buying is perfectly consistent. I expect he could get a few percent per day without even trying hard.
That’s true, but to make the REALLY big bucks, you need to make the bet no one else does a la Trading Places.
5% per day is already a 54 million-fold increase per year, what more do you want? ^^;;
Entirely the wrong question. Harry Potter is planning on taking over both the Muggle and Magical world. That’s going to take some capital!
What world domination process are you imagining? Money doesn’t buy you power. It buys you bribes, and lobby groups, and campaign funds, and mercenaries for coups, and so on. With some creative thinking, any and all of those should be obtainable through a combination of magic, blackmail, manipulating the weak-minded, and other means already at Harry’s disposal (especially if he has someone like Draco to supplement the latter).
You sound like you think he doesn’t need capital at all. Why would Harry avoid using a resource that would facilitate reaching his goals? Wouldn’t the rational thing to do be to use the methods that accomplish your goals in an effective and timely manner?
There are times when solutions other than money would be more effective, and there are times when money would be more effective or efficient. So why should he eschew that resource just because he can?
Apparate into secure bank vaults and take all their gold. That’s all a wizard wants at first, gold, not Muggle money.
They say ‘gold’, but they really mean Galleons. Especially given the wonky exchange rates, the Goblins must add more (or at least different) value to those than just a guarantee of purity and size.
Well, since the Goblins do agree to convert gold into Galleons for a modest percentage of the total, the point is moot—wizards will want gold to convert into Galleons.
Do bank vaults actually contain gold, these days?
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York happens to have around 6,700 tons of physical gold stored in the basement of its building in Manhattan (http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/goldvault.html).
There are definitely places gold is stored.
Surely they do. People trade in gold and banks are supposed to be holding the actual gold they own.