Exactly, I think words are conforting, they give us something to rely on. As they are barely the only thing we can rely on, more than useful they’re a essential. But I think it’s indispensable not because the balance between word and wordless is the thing that makes us progress but because the word keeps us bounded to our condition. As we can’t let us drown into the speechless and the silence we need some sort of rope to ride up the cliff afterward (or get down the moutain depending on your personnal and cultural orientation and symbolic). I think a balance can be found here, we need to loose words to approch some interesting “non-thoughts like things” and we need words in order to not loose sanity in the process and be able continue on living our human lifes after this.
Thanks again.
I’m not a budhist neither a Taoist. I make my own soup with all this really… but i’m really limited to the only few books i’ve read, i’m more confortable with vedantic and post vedantic cultures and spiritualities.
Agreed. The unfortunate thing about wordless experience for me is that I can’t record and therefore can’t repeat it very well.
I’ve woken up from a dream feeling like just when it got less describey I had a realisation and feel better. I don’t know what happened or why or how. And I’d like to be able to repeat that while awake. There are no words for that.
I like the phrase “I make my own soup”. Me too. I wonder if everyone does a bit. (obviously to certain degrees, talking here about a larger degree for myself). My phrase is “I am my own guide”
I’m from an occidental culture… It’s difficult to understand and to adopt a spirituality from the opposite side of the world, codes and symbols are upside down (or downside up ! ) and it’s easy to get “cultural interference” that mislead you in your path. When i think about it i thought about cultural appropriation before it was a cool hipster thing… Now i tend to feed on everything I found and make my own occidental mess of a spirituality. I guess everyone who’s a minimum curious tends to mix up different ideas he can rely on.
Thank you very much it was a really good talk !
PS : again sorry for misspost my pc is a mad beast… sorry mods
Exactly, I think words are conforting, they give us something to rely on. As they are barely the only thing we can rely on, more than useful they’re a essential. But I think it’s indispensable not because the balance between word and wordless is the thing that makes us progress but because the word keeps us bounded to our condition. As we can’t let us drown into the speechless and the silence we need some sort of rope to ride up the cliff afterward (or get down the moutain depending on your personnal and cultural orientation and symbolic). I think a balance can be found here, we need to loose words to approch some interesting “non-thoughts like things” and we need words in order to not loose sanity in the process and be able continue on living our human lifes after this.
Thanks again.
I’m not a budhist neither a Taoist. I make my own soup with all this really… but i’m really limited to the only few books i’ve read, i’m more confortable with vedantic and post vedantic cultures and spiritualities.
PS : Sorry for misspost
Agreed. The unfortunate thing about wordless experience for me is that I can’t record and therefore can’t repeat it very well.
I’ve woken up from a dream feeling like just when it got less describey I had a realisation and feel better. I don’t know what happened or why or how. And I’d like to be able to repeat that while awake. There are no words for that.
I like the phrase “I make my own soup”. Me too. I wonder if everyone does a bit. (obviously to certain degrees, talking here about a larger degree for myself). My phrase is “I am my own guide”
I’m from an occidental culture… It’s difficult to understand and to adopt a spirituality from the opposite side of the world, codes and symbols are upside down (or downside up ! ) and it’s easy to get “cultural interference” that mislead you in your path. When i think about it i thought about cultural appropriation before it was a cool hipster thing… Now i tend to feed on everything I found and make my own occidental mess of a spirituality. I guess everyone who’s a minimum curious tends to mix up different ideas he can rely on.
Thank you very much it was a really good talk !
PS : again sorry for misspost my pc is a mad beast… sorry mods