Right—sometimes. Not “the overwhelming majority of the adult population, which also happens to get high while doing so.” It’s the ubiquity, not just the strangeness, that confuses me.
You’re sure of that ubiquity part? I just think you should put off endorsing complicated beliefs until you are sure they are based on good data. In this case, I believe that means a proper sociological study.
Edit: Such a study may also make it easier to confirm the extent of various proposed motivations.
I don’t think we’re going to need a sociological study to verify that the vast majority of adults drink, and claim to like it when they do. That’s all I meant by ubiquity. I should have said “commonness” or something equally awkwardish.
No, you seem to be claiming that they’re doing it for the taste. They do it in spite of the taste, or indifferently to the taste, and add sweet flavors to mask it. However, people can grow to like the taste over time, and some of the flavors in the taste are good by themselves, though not as good as, say, a chocolate milkshake.
You also seem to be assuming that a taste has to be repulsive or delicious, instead of just neutral, or all right in certain contexts, or occasionally desirable.
No, you seem to be claiming that they’re doing it for the taste.
Er, no, that’s pretty much the opposite of what I’m claiming. I’m claiming that they say they do it for the taste, but mainly (or solely) want the psychoactive effects.
I’m claiming that they say they do it for the taste
Sorry for getting it wrong. Anyway, I don’t think they say that they primarily do it for the taste, which is an empirical question.
I think they say they “like” it, and they mean they like the overall experience, and you’re interpreting that to mean that they like the taste. Or they say they like the taste because they grew to like it over time, or because they mix it with other flavors, and you’re interpreting that to mean they primarily drink it for the taste.
Right—sometimes. Not “the overwhelming majority of the adult population, which also happens to get high while doing so.” It’s the ubiquity, not just the strangeness, that confuses me.
You’re sure of that ubiquity part? I just think you should put off endorsing complicated beliefs until you are sure they are based on good data. In this case, I believe that means a proper sociological study.
Edit: Such a study may also make it easier to confirm the extent of various proposed motivations.
I don’t think we’re going to need a sociological study to verify that the vast majority of adults drink, and claim to like it when they do. That’s all I meant by ubiquity. I should have said “commonness” or something equally awkwardish.
No, you seem to be claiming that they’re doing it for the taste. They do it in spite of the taste, or indifferently to the taste, and add sweet flavors to mask it. However, people can grow to like the taste over time, and some of the flavors in the taste are good by themselves, though not as good as, say, a chocolate milkshake.
You also seem to be assuming that a taste has to be repulsive or delicious, instead of just neutral, or all right in certain contexts, or occasionally desirable.
Er, no, that’s pretty much the opposite of what I’m claiming. I’m claiming that they say they do it for the taste, but mainly (or solely) want the psychoactive effects.
Sorry for getting it wrong. Anyway, I don’t think they say that they primarily do it for the taste, which is an empirical question.
I think they say they “like” it, and they mean they like the overall experience, and you’re interpreting that to mean that they like the taste. Or they say they like the taste because they grew to like it over time, or because they mix it with other flavors, and you’re interpreting that to mean they primarily drink it for the taste.