Sure, I’d love to make such a prediction, but those who disagree with me know all too well what the result will be and will try to rationalize away the predictable results of you trying alcohol … oops, too late.
I don’t think anyone disputes that people usually don’t like alcohol the first time they try it. I’m disputing that, after liking it, there’s a difference between this liking of alcohol and the liking of your apt example, milkshakes. The two likes are the same.
No, they’re not the same, because you have to go through a process to like alcohol, which would just the same cause you to like bat urine. You don’t have to do that for milkshakes.
So make predictions about what will happen after I’ve had N drinks. Or what would happen after I had N drinks of near-beer, if it’s the psychological effect you’re concerned with and not just the social one.
Sure, I’d love to make such a prediction, but those who disagree with me know all too well what the result will be and will try to rationalize away the predictable results of you trying alcohol … oops, too late.
I don’t think anyone disputes that people usually don’t like alcohol the first time they try it. I’m disputing that, after liking it, there’s a difference between this liking of alcohol and the liking of your apt example, milkshakes. The two likes are the same.
No, they’re not the same, because you have to go through a process to like alcohol, which would just the same cause you to like bat urine. You don’t have to do that for milkshakes.
After that process has happened, they’re the same.
Yes, once you use a process that will cause people to like ANYTHING, including bat urine, it will cause them to like alcohol.
If you look closely, that statement has no information content, and it’s equivalent to yours.
“Anything” is too broad. If you made drinking bat urine sufficiently high-status, or gave it some reward other than taste, then yes; otherwise, no.
EDIT: Taste in this case = “pleasure from first taste”
Good thing alcohol doesn’t have other rewards (like pleasant mental states) or impacts or your status.
Otherwise, the situations might be parallel!
You are bringing your own assumptions into it, as well, like that “anything” isn’t cyanide.
So make predictions about what will happen after I’ve had N drinks. Or what would happen after I had N drinks of near-beer, if it’s the psychological effect you’re concerned with and not just the social one.