Yes; #11 was what I considered to be the problem here. I wasn’t thinking about “defying common usage without a reason” as something where the problem was nonobvious; though he happens to have written about it, referring to the sequences for that would be a cannon-to-kill-a-mosquito sort of thing and didn’t even occur to me.
Which doesn’t seem to be a term you’ve defined at all.
Which is why I haven’t brought it up before, I would say go look it up but then I would be violating a few more of the items on that list. It is also much harder to point to an example and say this is a pseudoreligion, but not a religion and not just some other form of association (at least it is harder for me).
Yes, I’ve seen the term before. The reason I’m asking you to define it if you are going to use it is because like the term “religion” it has different meanings in different contexts when different people are using it (although as far as I can tell most people use it to mean “recent religion that I don’t like” in a way similar to how some people use the term “cult”.) So without expanding out precisely what you mean it isn’t a helpful term.
As far as I can tell a pseudoreligion is a religion that hasn’t coalesced as of yet into a distinct set of shared beliefs. That is how I would use the term.
However, this contradicts many of the ways that it is used generally, which seem to match your view of how people use the term. I am therefore not sure that it is helpful term given the common usage and connotations to that usage. Cult is similarly a difficult word, it is useful in a technical sense to define the worship of something but commonly has a very different meaning.
For what it is worth, there may be issues with #9 and #11 also.
Yes; #11 was what I considered to be the problem here. I wasn’t thinking about “defying common usage without a reason” as something where the problem was nonobvious; though he happens to have written about it, referring to the sequences for that would be a cannon-to-kill-a-mosquito sort of thing and didn’t even occur to me.
It might be closer to a Pseudoreligion.
I thought I already answered the issue with 11?
Which doesn’t seem to be a term you’ve defined at all.
Some of them. I’m confused with some of your apparent answers to that so I’m not completely sure. It may be a failing on my part.
Which is why I haven’t brought it up before, I would say go look it up but then I would be violating a few more of the items on that list. It is also much harder to point to an example and say this is a pseudoreligion, but not a religion and not just some other form of association (at least it is harder for me).
Yes, I’ve seen the term before. The reason I’m asking you to define it if you are going to use it is because like the term “religion” it has different meanings in different contexts when different people are using it (although as far as I can tell most people use it to mean “recent religion that I don’t like” in a way similar to how some people use the term “cult”.) So without expanding out precisely what you mean it isn’t a helpful term.
As far as I can tell a pseudoreligion is a religion that hasn’t coalesced as of yet into a distinct set of shared beliefs. That is how I would use the term.
However, this contradicts many of the ways that it is used generally, which seem to match your view of how people use the term. I am therefore not sure that it is helpful term given the common usage and connotations to that usage. Cult is similarly a difficult word, it is useful in a technical sense to define the worship of something but commonly has a very different meaning.