I thought that some progress actually got made. I got a better idea of the more benevolent end of the range of PUA, and PJ Elby and someone else stopped generalizing so much about women.
The “almost” in the “almost every”, and I was impressed when I saw it. I do not believe I exaggerate when I claim that ten times as many comments failed where pjeby’s succeeded. roland has not demonstrated the same kind of awareness—somewhat the opposite.
And it wasn’t just a formal “almost every”—there was a description of a sort of woman who’d been left out of the discussion. I’m willing to bet that his theory of typical and atypical women is still incomplete, but at least it includes a lot more of my experience.
And I forgot to mention that I got a better understanding of a lot of the men who go in for PUA.
OK—there’s that almost, but sooner or later, we have to work on being rational about difficult things.
As I recall, what went wrong with the race and intelligence discussion was someone who kept making assertions with no evidence. I wouldn’t be surprised if that person didn’t know the what evidence was.
It might have been a moderation problem. Banning people for utter cluelessness might have been the only solution.
On the other hand, I don’t think anyone tried to engage that person in a discussion of how they thought about evidence.
I thought that some progress actually got made. I got a better idea of the more benevolent end of the range of PUA, and PJ Elby and someone else stopped generalizing so much about women.
The “almost” in the “almost every”, and I was impressed when I saw it. I do not believe I exaggerate when I claim that ten times as many comments failed where pjeby’s succeeded. roland has not demonstrated the same kind of awareness—somewhat the opposite.
And it wasn’t just a formal “almost every”—there was a description of a sort of woman who’d been left out of the discussion. I’m willing to bet that his theory of typical and atypical women is still incomplete, but at least it includes a lot more of my experience.
And I forgot to mention that I got a better understanding of a lot of the men who go in for PUA.
OK—there’s that almost, but sooner or later, we have to work on being rational about difficult things.
As I recall, what went wrong with the race and intelligence discussion was someone who kept making assertions with no evidence. I wouldn’t be surprised if that person didn’t know the what evidence was.
It might have been a moderation problem. Banning people for utter cluelessness might have been the only solution.
On the other hand, I don’t think anyone tried to engage that person in a discussion of how they thought about evidence.