In the past, these topics have many times led to a breakdown of rational discourse. If this no longer happens, what is the more plausible explanation: that LW has somehow suddenly and collectively figured out a way to discuss these topics rationally, or that people are simply tired of the same old unproductive clashes so that nobody even bothers to challenge the happy death spirals?
The third alternative is to try things differently. It’s not helpful to make no effort and then ask “Have things magically changed, or will this fail?”
I like to, when possible, jump on unsubstantiated accusations and ask for evidence, rather than argue about opinions. We can make progress by better applying the norm that accusations against people on LW need evidence and examples of at least possible wrongdoing.
what is the reason to consider the first explanation as more probable than the second?
If the first explanation is even fairly likely, it’s worth not suggesting suppressing a topic. Greater probability is not necessary.
The third alternative is to try things differently. It’s not helpful to make no effort and then ask “Have things magically changed, or will this fail?”
I like to, when possible, jump on unsubstantiated accusations and ask for evidence, rather than argue about opinions. We can make progress by better applying the norm that accusations against people on LW need evidence and examples of at least possible wrongdoing.
If the first explanation is even fairly likely, it’s worth not suggesting suppressing a topic. Greater probability is not necessary.