then WORK to make that not happen. Maybe you’re scared of being confrontational with people you think are wrong, because of lowered status or whatever, but if we’re trying to be rational in general, then we should try to come to a rational consensus on a topic that’s controversial, as WELL as all the easy topics you can be rational about. You can say you don’t think it’s worth your time to try and bring rationality to this area, but in that case you can just shut up and post in other discussions, at no cost to yourself.
but in that case you can just shut up and post in other discussions, at no cost to yourself.
The implications of this being done regularly are significant. In fact, that’s the core point Vladimir_M has made. I don’t think you have understood the issues even remotely or read Vladimir_M’s comments clearly.
Well, it’s not like I just showed up and started saying these things. I have written dozens, if not hundreds of comments in threads that dealt with these topics in the past, and I speak from experience. (In fact, before I understood the reality of the situation, I was even saying similar things myself to more experienced people who suggested that such topics are best avoided.) Unfortunately, it simply doesn’t work—you can either ignore the happy death spirals or try to inject some reality and almost inevitably cause bitter controversy and bad blood.
then WORK to make that not happen. Maybe you’re scared of being confrontational with people you think are wrong, because of lowered status or whatever, but if we’re trying to be rational in general, then we should try to come to a rational consensus on a topic that’s controversial, as WELL as all the easy topics you can be rational about. You can say you don’t think it’s worth your time to try and bring rationality to this area, but in that case you can just shut up and post in other discussions, at no cost to yourself.
The implications of this being done regularly are significant. In fact, that’s the core point Vladimir_M has made. I don’t think you have understood the issues even remotely or read Vladimir_M’s comments clearly.
Well, it’s not like I just showed up and started saying these things. I have written dozens, if not hundreds of comments in threads that dealt with these topics in the past, and I speak from experience. (In fact, before I understood the reality of the situation, I was even saying similar things myself to more experienced people who suggested that such topics are best avoided.) Unfortunately, it simply doesn’t work—you can either ignore the happy death spirals or try to inject some reality and almost inevitably cause bitter controversy and bad blood.