I think we should do that testing on a random basis, and only the ones who pass actually get degrees. Retention is everything; fail to retain and you get no degree.
You seem to be under the impression that modern college degrees are mostly certifications of knowledge rather than long, expensive, politically correct intilligence/conscientiouness tests. What gives you that idea?
Depends what your degree is in. I’m studying nursing, and it seems to me that the point of it is to finish with a licence, i.e. a piece of paper proving that you know how to perform a certain range of skills and can do so safely. (Actually, I guess that’s the point of the provincial exam...the point of the degree itself is to prepare you for the provincial exam, but just graduating from a nursing program doesn’t automatically give you a licence.)
I’m guessing this is true for engineering, too, and any other degree where you’re going to end up doing a job that affects people’s safety and survival. And I think it’s true for a lot of community college programs. I don’t know what percentage of all college and university degrees these kind of degrees represent, but it’s non-zero.
To a degree, this is true of any technical/science degree. An industry lab would hire someone with a degree in chemistry, but probably not someone with a degree in English. So that does make the degree proof of knowledge, not just conscientiousness.
I think we should do that testing on a random basis, and only the ones who pass actually get degrees. Retention is everything; fail to retain and you get no degree.
You seem to be under the impression that modern college degrees are mostly certifications of knowledge rather than long, expensive, politically correct intilligence/conscientiouness tests. What gives you that idea?
Depends what your degree is in. I’m studying nursing, and it seems to me that the point of it is to finish with a licence, i.e. a piece of paper proving that you know how to perform a certain range of skills and can do so safely. (Actually, I guess that’s the point of the provincial exam...the point of the degree itself is to prepare you for the provincial exam, but just graduating from a nursing program doesn’t automatically give you a licence.)
I’m guessing this is true for engineering, too, and any other degree where you’re going to end up doing a job that affects people’s safety and survival. And I think it’s true for a lot of community college programs. I don’t know what percentage of all college and university degrees these kind of degrees represent, but it’s non-zero.
To a degree, this is true of any technical/science degree. An industry lab would hire someone with a degree in chemistry, but probably not someone with a degree in English. So that does make the degree proof of knowledge, not just conscientiousness.
Some teachers should be fired in that process too, no? I like how strictly students are slammed in this rhetoric. Fascinating.