I actually have a heart condition that severely limits my ability to exercise. Walking three miles is beyond what I’m capable of on an average day, let alone jogging anywhere.
This is an surprisingly harsh critique of a minor detail. In the future, I would strongly recommend a more polite, truth-seeking inquiry.
Thank you for the clarification. I am content. I congratulate you for running your errands on a bike with your condition; that’s actually quite impressive. I do apologize sincerely for that unnecessarily harsh critique of a minor detail. I concede to your recommendation. I think I have some explaining to do.
I am 19, and am relatively new to rationality. I have been exposed to it for about two years, but have attained only hints of scattered progress. I am ashamed of this, but also realize how difficult it is to change the underlying dispositional features of oneself; how difficult it is to get past a local optimum that the self uses for most of its stability. I quickly acknowledge how little I know, and have spent two years descending this macro-mount stupid. In the first 6 months, it got so bad that I disassociated from the normal sources of social stability. Family, friends, school, religion—all of it. I had a few things that kept me alive, but life was mostly cold, confusing, and lonely.
After the strict perfectionism settled down and the emotional stability started to come back, pragmaticism (localized perfectionism) has started to face me as the true optimum. To this day, I’m trying to figure out what to do about my current limited state. I now just want to be less wrong and less dysfunctional, because that’s the only improvement I could ever attain.
But the harsh season left a stain on my cognition—absolute perfectionism is a powerful tool, but crippling when facing concrete challenges (where concrete progress is born). My abstraction engine became strong, but now the polarized forms of abstraction are… polarized still. I need to find a more systematic way to weigh them properly. I presume concrete challenges with feedback from others is the next step in the right direction.
On LessWrong, I almost never comment on a post. I almost never join conversations. I’ve been left to my own analysis, and a static and vague window into others’ lines of thought. I never thought I should even try those things because it would just be wrong or dysfunctional, or worst of all, that I would make the future worse (by doing things like wasting more intelligent peoples’ time, or stimulating negative emotions). People on LessWrong aren’t obviously wrong most of the time, so it makes it difficult for me to meaningfully contribute. It’s in the subtlety where improvements can be made—the subtlety I have not yet learned. It’s hard wanting to belong with a group from outside the window.
What I’ve come to is that it would be better if I just said or did something I was convinced of, even if it was disproportionate and radical, mislead, wasted motion, or in this case, rude. But that I could figure out what went wrong after I made those mistakes and do my best to repair the damage.
(P.S. I accept lower karma in exchange for a chance to mess up and learn.)
Reflection from this particular experimental position: > Why was it possible for me to assume an offensive tone? What features contribute to an offensive tone, and how can I avoid that? I think HPMoR gave me the wrong idea about bringing awareness to something, and probably a lot more social behavior. - Conceptually speaking, my map correctly indicated to me that something more was left implicit for this example to be non-hyperbolic. - I had more than enough information to scratch off the possibility of it being hyperbolic, but I didn’t even try looking. 1. You have been on LessWrong for 4 years, have quite a bit of karma, have made over 20 posts on LessWrong, with many comments. I didn’t even have to click your name for most of that info. > These metrics aren’t pointless; are very useful. I will figure out how to determine what they mean for experiences on LessWrong. 2. You made a post called, “Being Productive With Chronic Health Conditions”, where the mystery could have been dispelled. Though I got to this post from a search, the mentioned post is listed right next to this one in your profile. > I should strive to always ask the right questions to see people in a broader, more accurate light. People are not stupid, and hardly ever without any reason. So why was it not the first-nature reaction to seek existing information to satisfy my curiosity?
(P.S. I want to try again on another one of your posts. Based on my skim, I think you have quite a bit of value to offer.)
Makes sense! Becoming more rational is a continual journey, and there’s no need to feel ashamed that you’re still learning. I expect you’ll find the process faster and smoother if you approach it as though you’re collaborating with other posters, instead of trying to score points :)
I actually have a heart condition that severely limits my ability to exercise. Walking three miles is beyond what I’m capable of on an average day, let alone jogging anywhere.
This is an surprisingly harsh critique of a minor detail. In the future, I would strongly recommend a more polite, truth-seeking inquiry.
Thank you for the clarification. I am content. I congratulate you for running your errands on a bike with your condition; that’s actually quite impressive. I do apologize sincerely for that unnecessarily harsh critique of a minor detail. I concede to your recommendation.
I think I have some explaining to do.
I am 19, and am relatively new to rationality. I have been exposed to it for about two years, but have attained only hints of scattered progress. I am ashamed of this, but also realize how difficult it is to change the underlying dispositional features of oneself; how difficult it is to get past a local optimum that the self uses for most of its stability. I quickly acknowledge how little I know, and have spent two years descending this macro-mount stupid. In the first 6 months, it got so bad that I disassociated from the normal sources of social stability. Family, friends, school, religion—all of it. I had a few things that kept me alive, but life was mostly cold, confusing, and lonely.
After the strict perfectionism settled down and the emotional stability started to come back, pragmaticism (localized perfectionism) has started to face me as the true optimum. To this day, I’m trying to figure out what to do about my current limited state. I now just want to be less wrong and less dysfunctional, because that’s the only improvement I could ever attain.
But the harsh season left a stain on my cognition—absolute perfectionism is a powerful tool, but crippling when facing concrete challenges (where concrete progress is born). My abstraction engine became strong, but now the polarized forms of abstraction are… polarized still. I need to find a more systematic way to weigh them properly. I presume concrete challenges with feedback from others is the next step in the right direction.
On LessWrong, I almost never comment on a post. I almost never join conversations. I’ve been left to my own analysis, and a static and vague window into others’ lines of thought. I never thought I should even try those things because it would just be wrong or dysfunctional, or worst of all, that I would make the future worse (by doing things like wasting more intelligent peoples’ time, or stimulating negative emotions). People on LessWrong aren’t obviously wrong most of the time, so it makes it difficult for me to meaningfully contribute. It’s in the subtlety where improvements can be made—the subtlety I have not yet learned. It’s hard wanting to belong with a group from outside the window.
What I’ve come to is that it would be better if I just said or did something I was convinced of, even if it was disproportionate and radical, mislead, wasted motion, or in this case, rude. But that I could figure out what went wrong after I made those mistakes and do my best to repair the damage.
(P.S. I accept lower karma in exchange for a chance to mess up and learn.)
Reflection from this particular experimental position:
> Why was it possible for me to assume an offensive tone? What features contribute to an offensive tone, and how can I avoid that? I think HPMoR gave me the wrong idea about bringing awareness to something, and probably a lot more social behavior.
- Conceptually speaking, my map correctly indicated to me that something more was left implicit for this example to be non-hyperbolic.
- I had more than enough information to scratch off the possibility of it being hyperbolic, but I didn’t even try looking.
1. You have been on LessWrong for 4 years, have quite a bit of karma, have made over 20 posts on LessWrong, with many comments. I didn’t even have to click your name for most of that info.
> These metrics aren’t pointless; are very useful. I will figure out how to determine what they mean for experiences on LessWrong.
2. You made a post called, “Being Productive With Chronic Health Conditions”, where the mystery could have been dispelled. Though I got to this post from a search, the mentioned post is listed right next to this one in your profile.
> I should strive to always ask the right questions to see people in a broader, more accurate light. People are not stupid, and hardly ever without any reason. So why was it not the first-nature reaction to seek existing information to satisfy my curiosity?
(P.S. I want to try again on another one of your posts. Based on my skim, I think you have quite a bit of value to offer.)
Makes sense! Becoming more rational is a continual journey, and there’s no need to feel ashamed that you’re still learning. I expect you’ll find the process faster and smoother if you approach it as though you’re collaborating with other posters, instead of trying to score points :)