You need to do some tweaking of your faith in experts. Experts tend to be effective in fields where they get immediate and tight feedback about whether they’re right or wrong. Physics has this, philosophy does not. You should put significantly LESS faith in experts from fields where they don’t have this tight feedback loop.
That’s a good point. I’ll continue discounting anything ancient and modern moral philosophers say, then. From Aristotle to Peter Singer, they are full of it, by your criteria.
Heh, you’re right. I suppose I didn’t specify sufficient criteria.
I think that philosophers who have stood the test of time have already undergone post-hoc feedback. Aristotle, Nietzsche,Hume etc all had areas of faulty reasoning, but for the most part this has been teased out and, brought to light, and is common knowledge now. All of them were also exceptionally talented and gifted, and made better arguments than the norm. The fact that their work HAS stood the test of time is an expert vetting process in itself.
In terms of a random philosophy professor on the street, they haven’t gone through this process of post-hoc feedback to nearly the same degree, and likely haven’t gotten enough real time feedback to have developed these sorts of rationality processes automatically. Singer perhaps has had a bit more post-hoc feedback simply because he’s popular and controversial, but not nearly as much as these other philosophers, and I suspect he still has lots of faulty reasoning to be picked up on :).
Heh, you’re right, I suppose I didn’t correctly specify that criteria.
The point was, not, “every expert in these fields is untrustworthy”. Singer/Aristotle/Nietzsche etc have already been vetted by generations that their thinking is good.
However, the random philsophy professor on the street, you should be far more skeptical of, they haven’t gone through that post-hoc feedback process, and they haven’t gotten (as much of) the real time feedback that would cause them to get things right merely from their training.
You need to do some tweaking of your faith in experts. Experts tend to be effective in fields where they get immediate and tight feedback about whether they’re right or wrong. Physics has this, philosophy does not. You should put significantly LESS faith in experts from fields where they don’t have this tight feedback loop.
That’s a good point. I’ll continue discounting anything ancient and modern moral philosophers say, then. From Aristotle to Peter Singer, they are full of it, by your criteria.
Heh, you’re right. I suppose I didn’t specify sufficient criteria.
I think that philosophers who have stood the test of time have already undergone post-hoc feedback. Aristotle, Nietzsche,Hume etc all had areas of faulty reasoning, but for the most part this has been teased out and, brought to light, and is common knowledge now. All of them were also exceptionally talented and gifted, and made better arguments than the norm. The fact that their work HAS stood the test of time is an expert vetting process in itself.
In terms of a random philosophy professor on the street, they haven’t gone through this process of post-hoc feedback to nearly the same degree, and likely haven’t gotten enough real time feedback to have developed these sorts of rationality processes automatically. Singer perhaps has had a bit more post-hoc feedback simply because he’s popular and controversial, but not nearly as much as these other philosophers, and I suspect he still has lots of faulty reasoning to be picked up on :).
Heh, you’re right, I suppose I didn’t correctly specify that criteria.
The point was, not, “every expert in these fields is untrustworthy”. Singer/Aristotle/Nietzsche etc have already been vetted by generations that their thinking is good.
However, the random philsophy professor on the street, you should be far more skeptical of, they haven’t gone through that post-hoc feedback process, and they haven’t gotten (as much of) the real time feedback that would cause them to get things right merely from their training.
I think in Aristo