Nope! This is a very common and yet widespread error, which I suppose comes from the idea that the mind comes from the brain. But even casually, we can tell that this isn’t true: would a copy of you, for example, still be recognizably you if put on a steady drip of cocaine? Or would it still be you if you were permanently ingesting alcohol? Both would result in a variation of you that is significantly different, despite otherwise identical brain. Your values would likely have shifted then, too. Your brain is identical—only the inputs to it have changed.
Cocaine and alcohol obviously affect brain functioning, right? That’s how they have the effects that they have. I am baffled that you could possibly see psychoactive drugs like those as evidence against the idea that the mind comes from the brain—from my perspective, it’s strong evidence for that idea.
From my perspective, you might as well have said: “There is a myth that torque comes from the car engine, but even casually, we can tell that this isn’t true: would an engine still produce the same torque if I toss it into the ocean? That would result in a torque that is significantly different, despite otherwise identical engine.”
(Note: If you respond, I’ll read what you write, but I’m not planning to carry on this conversation, sorry.)
Its not a myth, but an oversimplification which makes the original thesis much less useful. The mind, as we are care about, is a product and phenomenon of the entire environment it is in, as well as the values we can expect it to espouse.
It would indeed be akin to taking an engine, putting it in another environment like the ocean and expecting the similar phenomenon of torque to rise from it.
Cocaine and alcohol obviously affect brain functioning, right? That’s how they have the effects that they have. I am baffled that you could possibly see psychoactive drugs like those as evidence against the idea that the mind comes from the brain—from my perspective, it’s strong evidence for that idea.
From my perspective, you might as well have said: “There is a myth that torque comes from the car engine, but even casually, we can tell that this isn’t true: would an engine still produce the same torque if I toss it into the ocean? That would result in a torque that is significantly different, despite otherwise identical engine.”
(Note: If you respond, I’ll read what you write, but I’m not planning to carry on this conversation, sorry.)
Its not a myth, but an oversimplification which makes the original thesis much less useful. The mind, as we are care about, is a product and phenomenon of the entire environment it is in, as well as the values we can expect it to espouse.
It would indeed be akin to taking an engine, putting it in another environment like the ocean and expecting the similar phenomenon of torque to rise from it.