The relevant semantic distinction here is that self-identified “leftists” view themselves as distinct from “liberals” in a different clusters sense (some liberals agree), whereas most moderates and conservatives probably think of the political continuum as a line from far-right → right → center → left → far-left.
Words are made by men, and I don’t think there’s a “truth of the matter” to which definitions are more accurate, I’m just noting that different commenters in this thread are using the same words differently, and may not realize that their disagreements are semantic.
The relevant semantic distinction here is that self-identified “leftists” view themselves as distinct from “liberals” in a different clusters sense (some liberals agree), whereas most moderates and conservatives probably think of the political continuum as a line from far-right → right → center → left → far-left.
Words are made by men, and I don’t think there’s a “truth of the matter” to which definitions are more accurate, I’m just noting that different commenters in this thread are using the same words differently, and may not realize that their disagreements are semantic.