One could certainly argue that, and in such an extreme case I’d even agree that it’s not worth it, but nobody should be certain it doesn’t work unless the don’t believe uploads work, or they know an exact specific reason why it’s wrong other than intuition. It’s certainly very muchkiny, whether or not it works.
Oh, it’s very munchkiny, and a very valid way to become immortal is to change yourself into something which is easy to make immortal. You just lose everything about yourself that death would have taken.
a very valid way to become immortal is to change yourself into something which is easy to make immortal. You just lose everything about yourself that death would have taken.
Death takes more from someone who hasn’t changed themselves, at least partially, into something that can survive past it.
A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can’t stop you, then you become something else entirely...A legend, Mr. Wayne.
Well that’s not entirely true. His idea does destroy a lot of yourself, but many parts like your personality or ideas or even some memories maybe, may be able to be passed on. I would consider it at least partial immortality.
I would still consider an option for immortality if my personality and whatnot survived, but I had amnesia and couldn’t remember anything. Even better if I can retain all the important memories.
But this would be extremely difficult and immoral as hell. Also I’m sure, just by chance, there is someone out there who has an extremely similar personality and values to myself. That’s at least mildly comforting if I thought I was going to die, about as much as this form of immortality would be.
Personality can be roughly preserved by getting someone to know you well, the permanently roleplaying as you, especially if using hypnosis to make them think they really are you.
it makes more sense to me to be silly about “personal continuation” in this direction than in the non-uploading one that’s far more common. Which is not saying much really.
I don’t put any value to something being “the same” over time, but apparently most humans do, especially when it comes to people. If someone does care about someone’s continuity in a way that follows the assumptions listed in my post, then logically they should derive value from the procedure described.
That which is made immortal by such a method is not me.
One could certainly argue that, and in such an extreme case I’d even agree that it’s not worth it, but nobody should be certain it doesn’t work unless the don’t believe uploads work, or they know an exact specific reason why it’s wrong other than intuition. It’s certainly very muchkiny, whether or not it works.
Oh, it’s very munchkiny, and a very valid way to become immortal is to change yourself into something which is easy to make immortal. You just lose everything about yourself that death would have taken.
Death takes more from someone who hasn’t changed themselves, at least partially, into something that can survive past it.
A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can’t stop you, then you become something else entirely...A legend, Mr. Wayne.
Did you think to kill me? There’s no flesh and blood within this cloak to kill. There is only an idea. And ideas are bulletproof.
Well that’s not entirely true. His idea does destroy a lot of yourself, but many parts like your personality or ideas or even some memories maybe, may be able to be passed on. I would consider it at least partial immortality.
I would still consider an option for immortality if my personality and whatnot survived, but I had amnesia and couldn’t remember anything. Even better if I can retain all the important memories.
But this would be extremely difficult and immoral as hell. Also I’m sure, just by chance, there is someone out there who has an extremely similar personality and values to myself. That’s at least mildly comforting if I thought I was going to die, about as much as this form of immortality would be.
Ideas, and memories can be made to survive the flesh in far simpler was. Personality less clearly so.
Personality can be roughly preserved by getting someone to know you well, the permanently roleplaying as you, especially if using hypnosis to make them think they really are you.
Do you gain a lot of intrinsic value from perpetuating one’s personality (in that way)?
it makes more sense to me to be silly about “personal continuation” in this direction than in the non-uploading one that’s far more common. Which is not saying much really.
I don’t put any value to something being “the same” over time, but apparently most humans do, especially when it comes to people. If someone does care about someone’s continuity in a way that follows the assumptions listed in my post, then logically they should derive value from the procedure described.
As munchkinry, it’s pretty good, but I’m not taking this seriously enough to actually try it. It’s just a fun idea to me.