Start instead thinking of ethics as a project of trying to piece together psychological models of this insanely complicated and messy thing, ‘human morality’… Care less about the distinction between ‘moral values’ and other human values. There are certainly some distinguishing features, but these mostly aren’t incredibly important or deep or joint-carving.
I think we also need sociological models, and, relatedly, the distinction between “morality” and “human values” is joint-carving. IMO “morality” is all about gametheory masquerading as values.
That may be true for some conceptions of “morality”, but I wouldn’t want to bake it into the field at the outset regardless, since a lot of the things people normally associate with “morality” are related to things like purity, sanctity, vibe, dignity of the living and dead, refusal to think about taboo tradeoffs...
I think we also need sociological models, and, relatedly, the distinction between “morality” and “human values” is joint-carving. IMO “morality” is all about game theory masquerading as values.
Sounds reasonable!
That may be true for some conceptions of “morality”, but I wouldn’t want to bake it into the field at the outset regardless, since a lot of the things people normally associate with “morality” are related to things like purity, sanctity, vibe, dignity of the living and dead, refusal to think about taboo tradeoffs...