This shelter idea has many points of potential failure, possible showstoppers, and assuming a small population of shelters (hundreds or a few thousand), seems extremely unlikely to maintain an MVP for more than a few months.
Points of failure:
Leaks from the air and water filtration system (e.g., gasket leaks)
Leaks from the airlock
Leaks from the biohazard suits
Leaks from the shelter membrane
Shutdown of the filtration system due to mechanical or electrical failure
Showstoppers:
Food production or storage will require massive warehouses using the same extreme filtering as the suits and shelters. An alternative is to use some sort of disinfection tech like gamma ray sterilization, but I don’t know how practical that would be.
Producing all food indoors is currently not possible and seems unlikely be achieved anytime soon.
To mitigate the risk of these points of failure, millions of suits and shelters (along will massive amounts of supplies such as food and spare parts) will have to be manufactured and distributed, and millions of people will need to be trained in how to use them before any catastrophe occurred. Obviously, this is extremely unlikely to happen anytime soon, and I strongly suspect it won’t happen before mirror bacteria is created (due to the acceleration of biotech and AI progress) and released into the wild.
You raise important points but some of these issues are less of a concern:
-air supply leaks: the whole air supply is inside the shelter with a fan at the inside end. Thus, any leak goes from clean to dirty and is not an issue
-leaks through membrane (including airlock doors): not a major issue, the positive pressure will not let anything from the outside come inside
-shutdown due to failure of critical components is not foreseen to be an issue—all components should be possible to engineer for long continuous operation
The suits are indeed only 50k protection factor but it should be possible to use proven methods used to transfer germ free mice between facilities.
Water and food are not completely solved yet, agreed. I think food will be the harder part and I’m happy organizations such as ALLFED are working on this.
I am happy to address this in more detail as we have spent quite a bit of time turning many stones. That said, a team of people can still make mistakes so I appreciate that you are helping me looking into this and this is part of the reason I posted—I would love to take a call to if that would be easier to hash this out.
This shelter idea has many points of potential failure, possible showstoppers, and assuming a small population of shelters (hundreds or a few thousand), seems extremely unlikely to maintain an MVP for more than a few months.
Points of failure:
Leaks from the air and water filtration system (e.g., gasket leaks)
Leaks from the airlock
Leaks from the biohazard suits
Leaks from the shelter membrane
Shutdown of the filtration system due to mechanical or electrical failure
Showstoppers:
Food production or storage will require massive warehouses using the same extreme filtering as the suits and shelters. An alternative is to use some sort of disinfection tech like gamma ray sterilization, but I don’t know how practical that would be.
Producing all food indoors is currently not possible and seems unlikely be achieved anytime soon.
To mitigate the risk of these points of failure, millions of suits and shelters (along will massive amounts of supplies such as food and spare parts) will have to be manufactured and distributed, and millions of people will need to be trained in how to use them before any catastrophe occurred. Obviously, this is extremely unlikely to happen anytime soon, and I strongly suspect it won’t happen before mirror bacteria is created (due to the acceleration of biotech and AI progress) and released into the wild.
You raise important points but some of these issues are less of a concern: -air supply leaks: the whole air supply is inside the shelter with a fan at the inside end. Thus, any leak goes from clean to dirty and is not an issue -leaks through membrane (including airlock doors): not a major issue, the positive pressure will not let anything from the outside come inside -shutdown due to failure of critical components is not foreseen to be an issue—all components should be possible to engineer for long continuous operation
The suits are indeed only 50k protection factor but it should be possible to use proven methods used to transfer germ free mice between facilities.
Water and food are not completely solved yet, agreed. I think food will be the harder part and I’m happy organizations such as ALLFED are working on this.
I am happy to address this in more detail as we have spent quite a bit of time turning many stones. That said, a team of people can still make mistakes so I appreciate that you are helping me looking into this and this is part of the reason I posted—I would love to take a call to if that would be easier to hash this out.