Yeah, “suffering is bad” doesn’t mean that I would never accept trades which involved some amount of suffering. Especially since trying to avoid suffering tends to cause more of it in the long run, so even if you only cared about reducing suffering (which I don’t), you’d still want to take actions involving some amount of suffering.
Compare that even if you want to have a lot of money, never spending any money (on e.g. investments) isn’t a very good strategy, even though your stated goal implies that spending money is bad.
Hmm, the money analogy misses me too. I’d never say “spending money is bad”, even as shorthand for something, as it’s simply not a base-level truth. I think of money as a lifetime flow rather than an instantaneous stock, and failing in your goals when you have unspent money is clearly a mistake.
I suspect we do agree on a lot of intuitions, but also disagree on the modeling of which of those are fundamental vs situational.
Yeah, “suffering is bad” doesn’t mean that I would never accept trades which involved some amount of suffering. Especially since trying to avoid suffering tends to cause more of it in the long run, so even if you only cared about reducing suffering (which I don’t), you’d still want to take actions involving some amount of suffering.
Compare that even if you want to have a lot of money, never spending any money (on e.g. investments) isn’t a very good strategy, even though your stated goal implies that spending money is bad.
Hmm, the money analogy misses me too. I’d never say “spending money is bad”, even as shorthand for something, as it’s simply not a base-level truth. I think of money as a lifetime flow rather than an instantaneous stock, and failing in your goals when you have unspent money is clearly a mistake.
I suspect we do agree on a lot of intuitions, but also disagree on the modeling of which of those are fundamental vs situational.