The Save State Paradox: A new question for the construct of reality in a simulated world
Consider this thought experiment—in a simulated world (if we do indeed currently live in one), how could we detect an event similar to a state “reset”? Such events could be triggered for existential safety reasons or one unbeknownst to us? If this was the case, how would we become aware of such occurrences if we were reverted to a time before the execution; affecting memories, physical states and environmental continuity? Imagine if seemingly inexplicable concepts like Deja Vu and the Mandela Effect could be explained away with such a theory.
Let’s use an equation (aided by my custom GPT, Strawberry) to illustrate this:
D=R×(1−A)×E×P×S
Where D = the detection of the save state
R = the rate of hypothesised resets occurring in the simulation
A = the probability of the ability of the simulation to carry this out effectively (memory alteration or time travel)
E = external evidence that remains post-reset such as anomalies and unexplained phenomena
P= the probability that observers could spot/ measure these anomalies
S = the stability of the simulation’s parameters such as space/time metrics, physical laws
I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts and how this could be fleshed out further! How might we apply this thought experiment or model to examine the nature of our reality? What other tools could be used to uncover evidence of a reset?
I would not search for smart ways to detect it. Instead look at it from the outside—and there I don’t see why we should have large hope for it to be detectable:
Imagine you create your simulation. Imagine you are much more powerful than you are, to make the simulation as complex as you want. Imagine in your coolest run, your little simulatees start wondering: how could we trick Suzie so her simulation reveals the reset?!
I think you agree their question will be futile; once you reset your simulation, surely they’ll not be able to detect it: while setting up the simulation might be complex, reinitialize at a given state successfully, with no traces within the simulated system, seems like the simplest task of it all.
And so, I’d argue, we might well expect it to be also in our (potential) simulation, however smart your reset-detection design might be.
That’s a good point! I feel it ultimately comes down to the motive of the simulator in this assumed power asymmetry—is the intention for the simulatees to work out that they’re in a simulation? In that case, the reset function is probably a protective measure for them specifically e.g. if they’re on the verge of self annihilation. Or maybe it’s to protect them from the truth for their own sanity? Or if the simulator is malevolent, then a reset could exist if the situation is too peaceful or that the simulated find the mechanism to escape their current reality. In any case, the mechanism’s presence would be expected.
The Save State Paradox: A new question for the construct of reality in a simulated world
Consider this thought experiment—in a simulated world (if we do indeed currently live in one), how could we detect an event similar to a state “reset”? Such events could be triggered for existential safety reasons or one unbeknownst to us? If this was the case, how would we become aware of such occurrences if we were reverted to a time before the execution; affecting memories, physical states and environmental continuity? Imagine if seemingly inexplicable concepts like Deja Vu and the Mandela Effect could be explained away with such a theory.
Let’s use an equation (aided by my custom GPT, Strawberry) to illustrate this:
D=R×(1−A)×E×P×S
Where D = the detection of the save state
R = the rate of hypothesised resets occurring in the simulation
A = the probability of the ability of the simulation to carry this out effectively (memory alteration or time travel)
E = external evidence that remains post-reset such as anomalies and unexplained phenomena
P= the probability that observers could spot/ measure these anomalies
S = the stability of the simulation’s parameters such as space/time metrics, physical laws
I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts and how this could be fleshed out further! How might we apply this thought experiment or model to examine the nature of our reality? What other tools could be used to uncover evidence of a reset?
I would not search for smart ways to detect it. Instead look at it from the outside—and there I don’t see why we should have large hope for it to be detectable:
Imagine you create your simulation. Imagine you are much more powerful than you are, to make the simulation as complex as you want. Imagine in your coolest run, your little simulatees start wondering: how could we trick Suzie so her simulation reveals the reset?!
I think you agree their question will be futile; once you reset your simulation, surely they’ll not be able to detect it: while setting up the simulation might be complex, reinitialize at a given state successfully, with no traces within the simulated system, seems like the simplest task of it all.
And so, I’d argue, we might well expect it to be also in our (potential) simulation, however smart your reset-detection design might be.
That’s a good point! I feel it ultimately comes down to the motive of the simulator in this assumed power asymmetry—is the intention for the simulatees to work out that they’re in a simulation? In that case, the reset function is probably a protective measure for them specifically e.g. if they’re on the verge of self annihilation. Or maybe it’s to protect them from the truth for their own sanity? Or if the simulator is malevolent, then a reset could exist if the situation is too peaceful or that the simulated find the mechanism to escape their current reality. In any case, the mechanism’s presence would be expected.