The thing is that “rationalist social/community/meatspace things” is a wrong category. It lumps together things that are very different.
In general, the way that “rationalists” use the word (and concept) “community” leads them into error, of exactly this sort. That makes it difficult to discuss this sort of thing productively.
Unfortunately, untangling this is beyond the scope of a comment thread, especially a borderline-off-topic one like this. At some point I may attempt it, in top-level-post form.
The thing is that “rationalist social/community/meatspace things” is a wrong category. It lumps together things that are very different.
In general, the way that “rationalists” use the word (and concept) “community” leads them into error, of exactly this sort. That makes it difficult to discuss this sort of thing productively.
Unfortunately, untangling this is beyond the scope of a comment thread, especially a borderline-off-topic one like this. At some point I may attempt it, in top-level-post form.