But it’s directly related to the actual emotional content of your parables and paragraphs, and it keeps coming up recently with you and Eliezer, and I think it’s an important way that this particular post looks wrong even if the literal claim is trivially true.
For the first half, can you elaborate on what ‘actual emotional content’ there is in this post, as opposed to perceived emotional content?
My best guess for the second half is that maybe the intended meaning was: ‘this particular post looks wrong in an important way (relating to the ‘actual emotional content’) so the following points should be considered even though the literal claim is true’?
For the first half, can you elaborate on what ‘actual emotional content’ there is in this post, as opposed to perceived emotional content?
I mean that if you tell a story about the AI or aliens killing everyone, then the valence of the story is really tied up with the facts that (i) they killed everyone, and weren’t merely “not cosmopolitan,” (ii) this is a reasonably likely event rather than a possibility.
My best guess for the second half is that maybe the intended meaning was: ‘this particular post looks wrong in an important way (relating to the ‘actual emotional content’) so the following points should be considered even though the literal claim is true’?
Yeah, I mean that someone reading this post and asking themselves “Does this writing reflect a correct understanding of the world?” could easily conclude “nah, this seems off” even if they agree with Nate about the narrower claim that cosmopolitan values don’t come free.
I mean that if you tell a story about the AI or aliens killing everyone, then the valence of the story is really tied up with the facts that (i) they killed everyone, and weren’t merely “not cosmopolitan,” (ii) this is a reasonably likely event rather than a possibility.
I take it ‘valence’ here means ‘emotional valence’, i.e. the extent to which an emotion is positive or negative?
For the first half, can you elaborate on what ‘actual emotional content’ there is in this post, as opposed to perceived emotional content?
My best guess for the second half is that maybe the intended meaning was: ‘this particular post looks wrong in an important way (relating to the ‘actual emotional content’) so the following points should be considered even though the literal claim is true’?
I mean that if you tell a story about the AI or aliens killing everyone, then the valence of the story is really tied up with the facts that (i) they killed everyone, and weren’t merely “not cosmopolitan,” (ii) this is a reasonably likely event rather than a possibility.
Yeah, I mean that someone reading this post and asking themselves “Does this writing reflect a correct understanding of the world?” could easily conclude “nah, this seems off” even if they agree with Nate about the narrower claim that cosmopolitan values don’t come free.
I take it ‘valence’ here means ‘emotional valence’, i.e. the extent to which an emotion is positive or negative?