I think it would be very connotatively wrong to use those. I really need to say “the kind of conversation where you can examine claims together, and both parties are playing fair and trying to raise their true objections and not moving the goalposts”, and “double-crux” points at a subset of that. It doesn’t literally have to be double-crux, but it would take a new definition in order to have a handle for that, and three definitions in one post is already kind of pushing it.
There are rationalist-adjacents for whom collaborative truth-seeking on many topics would fail because they’re not interested in zooming in so close on a belief. There are post-rationalists for whom collaborative truth-seeking would fail because they can just switch frames on the conversation any time they’re feeling stuck. And to try to collaborate on truth-seeking with someone, only to have it fail in either of those ways, is an infuriating feeling for those of us who thought we could take it for granted in the community.
I think it would be very connotatively wrong to use those. I really need to say “the kind of conversation where you can examine claims together, and both parties are playing fair and trying to raise their true objections and not moving the goalposts”, and “double-crux” points at a subset of that. It doesn’t literally have to be double-crux, but it would take a new definition in order to have a handle for that, and three definitions in one post is already kind of pushing it.
Any better ideas?
“Collaborative truth-seeking”?
Gotcha. I don’t know of a good word for the super-set that includes doublecrux but I see what you’re pointing at.