I was wondering if anyone was going to notice that Vladimir’s (absurdly highly upvoted) comment was basically a just a dark arts exploit trying to harness (largely deontological) moral judgements outside their intended context.
If that was an observation that you had already thought of, and you believed it good to be mentioned, why didn’t you so mention it yourself—instead of waiting to see if anyone else said it? I can conceive of some comments that are good to be made by only specific individuals, given specific contexts—but I don’t see this being one of them.
I find the attitude of “waiting to see if anyone else does this” and afterwards condemning/praising people collectively for failure/success in doing whatever person-failed-to-do-themselves an extremely distasteful one to me.
If that was an observation that you had already thought of, and you believed it good to be mentioned, why didn’t you so mention it yourself—instead of waiting to see if anyone else said it?
I did write a reply when Vladimir first wrote the comment. But I deleted it since I decided I couldn’t be bothered getting into a potential flamewar about a subject that I know from experience is easy to spin for cheap moral-high-group points (“you’re a murderer!”, etc). I long ago realized that it is not (always) my responsibility to fix people who are wrong on the internet.
Since smijer is (as of the time of this comment) a user with 9 votes while Vladimir is in the top 20 of the top contributors and the specific comment being corrected is at +19 it does not seem at all inappropriate to lend support to his observation.
Since smijer is (as of the time of this comment) a user with 9 votes while Vladimir is in the top 20 of the top contributors and the specific comment being corrected is at +19 it does not seem at all inappropriate to lend support to his observation.
Okay, I think I find this a good reason. Thank you for explaining.
If you mean the first...why? That wasn’t the issue. The issue was why wedrifid hadn’t chimed in.
As for the second, wouldn’t this imply that wedrifid was holding out because he expected someone with low karma to speak up first?
If that was an observation that you had already thought of, and you believed it good to be mentioned, why didn’t you so mention it yourself—instead of waiting to see if anyone else said it? I can conceive of some comments that are good to be made by only specific individuals, given specific contexts—but I don’t see this being one of them.
I find the attitude of “waiting to see if anyone else does this” and afterwards condemning/praising people collectively for failure/success in doing whatever person-failed-to-do-themselves an extremely distasteful one to me.
I did write a reply when Vladimir first wrote the comment. But I deleted it since I decided I couldn’t be bothered getting into a potential flamewar about a subject that I know from experience is easy to spin for cheap moral-high-group points (“you’re a murderer!”, etc). I long ago realized that it is not (always) my responsibility to fix people who are wrong on the internet.
Since smijer is (as of the time of this comment) a user with 9 votes while Vladimir is in the top 20 of the top contributors and the specific comment being corrected is at +19 it does not seem at all inappropriate to lend support to his observation.
Okay, I think I find this a good reason. Thank you for explaining.
You find this a good reason for what?
(1) For supporting smijer’s comment
(2) For not chiming in when he first had the idea
If you mean the first...why? That wasn’t the issue. The issue was why wedrifid hadn’t chimed in. As for the second, wouldn’t this imply that wedrifid was holding out because he expected someone with low karma to speak up first?
For the seeming inconsistency I had noticed between (1) and (2).
Not wanting to get into a flamewar is, of course, reasonable. But daring to be the first to dissent is a valuable service, too.
I appreciate the support.