Yeah, I saw that earlier. In my case, I’m not panicked (or at least, I quickly became not panicked) about rampant abuse, and I also have not been directly exposed to a lot of abuse. My concerns are more about ways I’ve been directly exposed to harm by authoritarianism with good intentions. It’s no coincidence that that is what I was inclined to bring up. Since I’m probably not unique, there’s probably something worth taking seriously in every complaint. But everyone is probably weighting their own concerns the most. So that summarizes to something like:
-abuse is often perpetuated in structures that share significant characteristics with DAB, and you should think about specific plans to avoid abusing people
-there are unique systemic issues with authoritarian structures that facilitate unsustainable dysfunction even when no individual person is deviating much from normal behavior
-sex and romance will cause problems and it might be worth restricting behavior inside the house
+1 to all this. In particular, if my pendulum swing model is correct, the new position of the pendulum (extreme aversion to the risk of abuse) is a result of the pendulum’s previous stuck point being “a lot of people suffering abuse in these kinds of environments.”
I’m proposing swinging back toward the old norm and trying not to cross the ideal point, and I agree it’s a hard problem. Posts like yours are excellent for improving models and reducing risk as a result.
Yeah, I saw that earlier. In my case, I’m not panicked (or at least, I quickly became not panicked) about rampant abuse, and I also have not been directly exposed to a lot of abuse. My concerns are more about ways I’ve been directly exposed to harm by authoritarianism with good intentions. It’s no coincidence that that is what I was inclined to bring up. Since I’m probably not unique, there’s probably something worth taking seriously in every complaint. But everyone is probably weighting their own concerns the most. So that summarizes to something like:
-abuse is often perpetuated in structures that share significant characteristics with DAB, and you should think about specific plans to avoid abusing people
-there are unique systemic issues with authoritarian structures that facilitate unsustainable dysfunction even when no individual person is deviating much from normal behavior
-sex and romance will cause problems and it might be worth restricting behavior inside the house
-etc (I have not read every single complaint)
+1 to all this. In particular, if my pendulum swing model is correct, the new position of the pendulum (extreme aversion to the risk of abuse) is a result of the pendulum’s previous stuck point being “a lot of people suffering abuse in these kinds of environments.”
I’m proposing swinging back toward the old norm and trying not to cross the ideal point, and I agree it’s a hard problem. Posts like yours are excellent for improving models and reducing risk as a result.