Because you’ve publicly expressed assent with extreme bluntness
Who said anything about “extreme”?
You are unreasonably fixated on the details of this particular situation (my comment clearly was intended to invoke a much broader context), and on particular verbal features of the anonymous critic’s comment. Ironically, however, you have not picked up on the extent to which my disapproval of censorship of that comment was contingent upon its particular nature. It consisted, in the main, of angrily-expressed substantive criticism of the “Berkeley rationalist community”. (The parts about people killing themselves were part of the expression of anger, and need not be read literally.) The substance of that criticism may be false, but it is useful to know that someone in the author’s position (they seemed to have had contact with members of the community) believes it, or is at least sufficiently angry that they would speak as if they believed it.
I will give you a concession: I possibly went too far in saying I was grateful that downvoting was disabled; maybe that comment’s proper place was in “comment score below threshold” minimization-land. But that’s about as far as I think the censorship needs to go.
Not, by the way, that I think it would be catastrophic if the comment were edited—in retrospect, I probably overstated the strength of my preference above—by my preference is, indeed, that it be left for readers to judge the author.
Now, speaking of tone: the tone of the parent comment is inappropriately hostile to me, especially in light of my other comment in which I addressed you in a distinctly non-hostile tone. You said you were curious about what caused me to update—this suggested you were interested in a good-faith intellectual discussion about discourse norms in general, such as would have been an appropriate reply to my comment. Instead, it seems, you were simply preparing an ambush, ready to attack me for (I assume) showing too much sympathy for the enemy, with whatever “ammunition” my comment gave you.
I don’t wish to continue this argument, both because I have other priorities, and also because I don’t wish to be perceived as allying myself in a commenting-faction with the anonymous troublemaker. This is by no means a hill that I am interested in dying on.
However, there is one further remark I must make:
Your comment makes you come across as someone who has led a very sheltered upper-class existence
You are incredibly wrong here, and frankly you ought to know better. (You have data to the contrary.)
Positive reinforcement for noticing your confusion. It does indeed seem that we are working from different models—perhaps even different ontologies—of the situation, informed by different sets of experiences and preoccupations.
Who said anything about “extreme”?
You are unreasonably fixated on the details of this particular situation (my comment clearly was intended to invoke a much broader context), and on particular verbal features of the anonymous critic’s comment. Ironically, however, you have not picked up on the extent to which my disapproval of censorship of that comment was contingent upon its particular nature. It consisted, in the main, of angrily-expressed substantive criticism of the “Berkeley rationalist community”. (The parts about people killing themselves were part of the expression of anger, and need not be read literally.) The substance of that criticism may be false, but it is useful to know that someone in the author’s position (they seemed to have had contact with members of the community) believes it, or is at least sufficiently angry that they would speak as if they believed it.
I will give you a concession: I possibly went too far in saying I was grateful that downvoting was disabled; maybe that comment’s proper place was in “comment score below threshold” minimization-land. But that’s about as far as I think the censorship needs to go.
Not, by the way, that I think it would be catastrophic if the comment were edited—in retrospect, I probably overstated the strength of my preference above—by my preference is, indeed, that it be left for readers to judge the author.
Now, speaking of tone: the tone of the parent comment is inappropriately hostile to me, especially in light of my other comment in which I addressed you in a distinctly non-hostile tone. You said you were curious about what caused me to update—this suggested you were interested in a good-faith intellectual discussion about discourse norms in general, such as would have been an appropriate reply to my comment. Instead, it seems, you were simply preparing an ambush, ready to attack me for (I assume) showing too much sympathy for the enemy, with whatever “ammunition” my comment gave you.
I don’t wish to continue this argument, both because I have other priorities, and also because I don’t wish to be perceived as allying myself in a commenting-faction with the anonymous troublemaker. This is by no means a hill that I am interested in dying on.
However, there is one further remark I must make:
You are incredibly wrong here, and frankly you ought to know better. (You have data to the contrary.)
Well, you’ve left me pretty confused about the level of importance you place on good-faith discussion norms :P
Positive reinforcement for noticing your confusion. It does indeed seem that we are working from different models—perhaps even different ontologies—of the situation, informed by different sets of experiences and preoccupations.