I don’t know if I’m neutral (no, because I have an account here for a while now), but I wouldn’t have the same confidence to swing that bet out of there like you do. The post in and of itself is not convincing enough for me to say that your idea won’t work, but it certainly makes me go “hmm, well, he might have a point there”.
Specifically:
“Normal” people don’t need to explicitly write out all the rules for their housing with regards to social rules.
But here there’s a large list of rules and activitities and all that with the goal of getting group housing to work properly.
Also, here’s some examples of the group of people that you want to source your participants from having low social skills.
By the way, if you set up a ton of rules then it usually won’t work.
Thus, there’s a pretty big chance that the rules will not work out and that the social skills of the participants will be too low to have the group housing work.
I am not convinced that this is the truth.
However, if I read in a year from now that this is what happened, I would not be surprised.
Basically what I’m saying is I can see 1 or 2 people leaving due to drama despite the rules if you try this, with a chance greater than, I dunno, 10%?
You’re looking at content, not status (as implied by ‘knocking someone down a peg’). My immediate reaction to the top-level comment was: “well, they have some good points, but damn are they embarassing themselves with this language”. Possibly shaped by me being generally sceptical about the ideas in the OP.
As far as the bet is about the form of the post, rather than the content, I think Duncan’s pretty safe.
“Normal” people don’t need to explicitly write out all the rules for their housing with regards to social rules.
I have seen normies having endless fights about trivial things, such as “who should buy toilet paper”, that a simple explicit norm could solve. (For example “people keep buying the paper in turns, when you buy one check this box to keep everyone informed” or “Joe buys the paper, everyone else gives Joe $2 each month” or whatever.)
The best case, of course, would be trying to be nice by default, and solve explicitly the situations where the default behavior fails. But that seems like what would quite likely happen in the Dragon Army anyway… or maybe I am just applying the typical mind fallacy here.
I don’t know if I’m neutral (no, because I have an account here for a while now), but I wouldn’t have the same confidence to swing that bet out of there like you do. The post in and of itself is not convincing enough for me to say that your idea won’t work, but it certainly makes me go “hmm, well, he might have a point there”.
Specifically:
“Normal” people don’t need to explicitly write out all the rules for their housing with regards to social rules.
But here there’s a large list of rules and activitities and all that with the goal of getting group housing to work properly.
Also, here’s some examples of the group of people that you want to source your participants from having low social skills.
By the way, if you set up a ton of rules then it usually won’t work.
Thus, there’s a pretty big chance that the rules will not work out and that the social skills of the participants will be too low to have the group housing work.
I am not convinced that this is the truth.
However, if I read in a year from now that this is what happened, I would not be surprised.
Basically what I’m saying is I can see 1 or 2 people leaving due to drama despite the rules if you try this, with a chance greater than, I dunno, 10%?
You’re looking at content, not status (as implied by ‘knocking someone down a peg’). My immediate reaction to the top-level comment was: “well, they have some good points, but damn are they embarassing themselves with this language”. Possibly shaped by me being generally sceptical about the ideas in the OP.
As far as the bet is about the form of the post, rather than the content, I think Duncan’s pretty safe.
I have seen normies having endless fights about trivial things, such as “who should buy toilet paper”, that a simple explicit norm could solve. (For example “people keep buying the paper in turns, when you buy one check this box to keep everyone informed” or “Joe buys the paper, everyone else gives Joe $2 each month” or whatever.)
The best case, of course, would be trying to be nice by default, and solve explicitly the situations where the default behavior fails. But that seems like what would quite likely happen in the Dragon Army anyway… or maybe I am just applying the typical mind fallacy here.
You should take the Hansonian approach. Fights over toilet paper are not about toilet paper.