therufs

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therufs 20 Jan 2017 5:43 UTC
1 point
in reply to: luminosity’s comment on: Meetup Discussion
We had some people who were in both, but no one who started out just coming to HPMOR and then joined discussion, to the best of my recollection. It’s possible we could have done a better job of (a) actively cross-promoting (b) tying discussion topics in to HPMOR stuff.

therufs 10 Jan 2017 23:28 UTC
2 points
in reply to: therufs’s comment on: Meetup Discussion
LW discussion meetup (shotgun rules)

The outcome of the State of the Meetup Meetup was that people were mostly coming for social reasons and we probably didn’t need to freak out about topics all the time.

We drafted and sorta-unilaterally instated the Shotgun Rules (flagrantly cribbed from the Bay Area Debian group.)

Relevant highlights:
- Anyone may call a meetup for the appointed day
- If the meetup is not called it does not happen
- If there is no designated topic we will just hang out and that is fine.
In practice, I think a meetup has been called by someone who wasn’t an organizer of the previous group only once or twice, and we’ve almost always had a “topic” (sometimes a post from a rationality blog that someone found interesting, sometimes “play Zendo” or “do some other-optimizing”). We usually stay more or less “on topic” for 60-90 minutes, then digress at leisure.

A side benefit of the shotgun rules (though I have fairly strong evidence that new members of the mailing list categorically do not read them) is the opportunity for folks to get a sense of approximately how serious any given meetup can be expected to be (not very), and to signal for certain values (e.g. gender inclusive restrooms) without beating folks over the head with them.

therufs 10 Jan 2017 23:13 UTC
1 point
in reply to: therufs’s comment on: Meetup Discussion
LW discussion meetup (old-skool)

The old-skool LW discussion meetup was on alternate Thursday evenings, usually either at a coffee shop or our house. Often, the organizer/s would put a fair bit of time and thought into coming up with a topic, researching it, and fleshing out a discussion plan.

We had a few topics we felt okay about revisiting periodically:
- Calibration exercises
- Rationality Checklist
but all in all coming up with a new topic often enough that we thought people wouldn’t get bored and leave got stressful, so in January 2016 we had a Future of the Meetup meeting.

therufs 10 Jan 2017 23:08 UTC
1 point
in reply to: therufs’s comment on: Meetup Discussion
HPMOR meetup

Sometime mid-HPMOR, we had a biweekly Saturday midday meetup group to discuss some number of chapters. We started at the beginning and would read (or not read) ?5? or so chapters per meetup until we ran out of new material, after which we met sporadically when there was a new chapter. If memory serves, we met for brunch a couple of times, then shifted to doing food truck food + hanging out a local brewery. After discussion these meetups would generally segue into at least a whole afternoon if not a whole day of hangouts.

At least once or twice, we got some folks who ardently insisted they’d never ever ever ever come to a LW meetup. We also occasionally got attendees from places outside the Triangle for whom it wasn’t feasible to make the trip to our LW discussion meetup.

We talked about moving on to other rationality fic (Luminosity in particular) after HPMOR wrapped but that didn’t happen for some reason (possibly it got cold before we got around to it, and the food truck+brewery combo is somewhat less enchanting in such weather.)

I rarely have a whole Saturday to devote to discussion, beer, ping pong, coffee, and Bullitron anymore, but I remember these with a lot of fondness.

therufs 10 Jan 2017 22:57 UTC
1 point
on: Meetup Discussion
Research Triangle [but we almost always meet in Durham], NC (aka RTLW)

3 sorta-distinct meetup styles; 1 currently active. I guess I will put them into their own comments below.

therufs 14 Feb 2016 0:50 UTC
5 points
on: Cheerful one-liners and disjointed anecdotes

What does it take to be a programmer, not just to become one?

Making peace with the fact that there will never be a day when perfect code springs full formed from your head like a Greek goddes, and that what you are getting paid to do (assuming you’re getting paid) is to be aggravated.

If the job is good, the aggravations are the kind that you get to have fun eliminating: clients with use cases the product team didn’t think of, someone changed an API and didn’t tell you, you need to build a new feature, etc. (If the job is bad, the aggravations are probably the same as any other bad job: meetings or mismanagement.)

therufs 29 Jan 2016 22:42 UTC
3 points
on: Clearing An Overgrown Garden
Thanks for thinking this through.

A few questions:

Would there be a way for people who already maintain blogs elsewhere to cross-post to their LW subdomain? (Would this even be desirable?)

Do you envision LW2 continuing to include applied rationality type posts? Does that work with “everything should work towards Aumann agreement”?

users may not repeatedly bring up the same controversial discussion outside of their original context

How could we track this, other than relying on mods to be like “ugh, this poster again”?

professionally edited rationality journal

Woah. Is this really a thing that MIRI could (resources permitting) just like … do?

therufs 13 Mar 2015 1:59 UTC
3 points
on: HPMOR Wrap Parties: Resources, Information and Discussion
Durham, NC party -- 1:00 PM EDT at Fullsteam, 726 Rigsbee Avenue, 27701.

FB: https://www.facebook.com/events/721959147924349/

therufs 9 Mar 2015 1:04 UTC
6 points
in reply to: gjm’s comment on: Group Rationality Diary, March 1-21
WAIT. NO. I have a good guess as to why and have for a few months, and I have not been clear about my motives.

What I really want is for the downvoter to come out and say “I hold you in such contempt that I’m willing to skirt both LW policy and norms to deincentivize you from participating.”

I actually considered posting something like that, but could not figure out how to say it without it coming across as flagrant snark. Well. shrug

therufs 9 Mar 2015 0:02 UTC
4 points
on: Group Rationality Diary, March 1-21
The remark wasn’t “jokily defensive”, it’s because for a while someone was serially downvoting everything I posted, and I wanted to know why.

I still want to know why!

therufs 16 Feb 2015 22:17 UTC
3 points
on: Group Rationality Diary, February 15-28
I finally set my sights low enough that I got some things done at work! :p (Which is to say, I reduced them from “I have to write this thing I don’t understand” to “I have to write part of this thing I don’t understand” and finally to “Okay, I have to write ONE LINE of code today.”)

therufs 23 Jan 2015 2:23 UTC
3 points
on: Meetup : Raleigh, NC (RTLW) Discussion Meetup
Archive of meetup topics:

3/17/2016: Go (the game)

3/4/2016:
http://lesswrong.com/lw/2qc/rationality_power_tools/
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Rationality_power_tools

1/22/2015:
http://mindingourway.com/steering-towards-forbidden-conversations
http://mindingourway.com/enjoying-the-feeling-of-agency

3/5/2015:
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

5/21/2015 -- Gamification
http://lesswrong.com/lw/55i/failure_modes_sometimes_correspond_to_game/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfBpsV1Hwqs

6/4/2015 -- Gamification, continued

6/18/2015 -- Three Worlds Collide

7/2/2015:
- The Infinite Trolley Problem
- The Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics
8/6/2015:
- The General Factor of Correctness

therufs 14 Jan 2015 3:57 UTC
8 points
on: [meta] New LW moderator: NancyLebovitz
Will she be appearing on the moderator list?

therufs 10 Jan 2015 1:24 UTC
4 points
in reply to: VAuroch’s comment on: Negative polyamory outcomes?
I’m curious about the extent to which rationalists have a strong enough preference for dating within the rationality community that they exclude non-rationalist potential dates.

Or, in another framing, to what extent the preference for a rationalist date outweighs other considerations, to the extent that not dating a non-rationalist is preferable to dating a non-rationalist.

therufs 10 Jan 2015 1:20 UTC
3 points
in reply to: Kindly’s comment on: Negative polyamory outcomes?
Hmm. It’d be my guess that this effect diminishes as the number of dates/length of relationship increases; what do you think?

therufs 8 Jan 2015 22:26 UTC
2 points
in reply to: gothgirl420666’s comment on: Negative polyamory outcomes?

women tend to have an easier time finding dates

I’m a little confused by what this implies. Are you observing that it’s easier for women to initiate dating activities (plausible), or that women go on more dates than men (but while some women date each other, most don’t)?

therufs 8 Jan 2015 22:14 UTC
1 point
in reply to: atorm’s comment on: Negative polyamory outcomes?
Yeah. For me I don’t think so much in terms of “don’t out yourself” (basically figuring this is impossible) as “will I be able to manage my relationship with this bystander with minimum future awkwardness” (which I have maybe unreasonably low priors for.)

(Also, not net negative; see above)

therufs 8 Jan 2015 15:22 UTC
0 points
on: Group Rationality Diary, January 1-15
Trying to notice and update on how much brainpower is used by/distraction is caused by looming unmade decisions, even fairly trivial ones.

therufs 7 Jan 2015 22:13 UTC
5 points
in reply to: CBHacking’s comment on: Negative polyamory outcomes?
Argh. No, my current relationship(s) are pretty great overall, and I was so enthusiastic about demonstrating that I was realistic about the downsides that I didn’t really think about the outcomes vs. experiences thing.

Sorry for the confusion; will (try to) edit for clarity.

therufs 7 Jan 2015 3:51 UTC
7 points
on: Negative polyamory outcomes?
The main negative aspect of my ongoing experience (20 months so far) has primarily been in increased awkwardness around acquaintances and family members. I’m predisposed to that anyway, and actually doing something nonconformy (and not really having much sense of how acquaintances and family members feel about it, even those who are aware of the relationship) has heightened the phenomenon.

It’s definitely net positive overall, though. :)

edit: deobfuscation