If CEV encounters a large proportion of the population that wish it was not run and will continue to do so after extrapolation, it simply stops and reports that fact. That’s one of the points of the method. It is, in and of itself a large scale social survey of present and future humanity. And if the groups that wouldn’t want it run now would after extrapolation, I’m fine with running it against their present wishes, and hope that if I were part of a group under similar circumstances someone else would do the same- “past me” is an idiot, I’m not much better, and “future me” is hopefully an even bigger improvement, while “desired future me” almost certainly is.
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I’m aware that the proxying service is available while I’m logged in, I was just misled by a cached login to believe that it was working without logging in, which would have been very odd, though beneficial. I’ve decided to update the comment to reflect that.
Okay, so there was some sort of fluke. I checked again and I did have to relogin; I’m guessing it was cached data rather than the cookie which stores my login, because other sites still failed to recognize me. Sorry for getting peoples hopes up,
But rationalism doesn’t have a well-defined set of norms/desirable skills to develop.
Actually changing your mind, learning the simple math of various fields,and becoming more luminous seem to represent a set of desirable skills to me, though I admit that is far from comprehensive. See also the twelve virtues of rationality.
I may be experiencing a fluke, but it appears that my university’s library’s website allows any computer to use it as proxy for viewing and downloading articles from many paywalled sites (in fact, every site it gives me access to with my student login, which is a very large selection). I only discovered this by accident, and I’m hoping it isn’t unintentional on their part. If anybody is interested, the address is here. If you try it and it doesn’t work, please tell me.
ETA: It appears that my browser simply cached my login, and that this service is unfortunately not actually available to the general public. Sorry for any confusion.
Sorry I didn’t make it. There were some last minute surprise Mother’s day obligations.
I just recently found out about and obtained the sequels, and I have high hopes for them too.
I find that for me, and many other people I know in the mathematics department of my university, once infinities, uncountability, and such enter the picture, the accuracy of intuition quickly starts to diminish, so it’s wise to be careful and make sure the proof is complete before declaring it obvious. As a good example, note how surprising and notable Cantor’s diagonal argument seemed the first time you heard it- it isn’t obvious that the reals aren’t countable when you don’t already know that, so you might start trying to construct a counting scheme and end up with one that “obviously” works.
I’m in Tucson, at the U of A.
I’ll try and make it up; It’s the weekend before finals start, but that likely wont be a problem.
I can’t overemphasize how true this is. The economic advantages that APs have given me are staggering: I took 14, passed all of them, and started at my local state college with enough credit to obviate all but one of the 30-40 credits of required gen. ed. courses. Since they’re effectively paying me to come here, I didn’t graduate in 2 years like I could have, but instead am taking the full 4, getting a double major, and actually struggling a bit (even after many courses taken just for fun) to find enough classes to maintain full enrollment. Those tests cost about $1000, but seeing the benefits they were literally worth more than ten times that.
for some reason I read “oldest” as “oldest son” the first time...no idea why. I do think it’s very likely that your elder daughter will end up atheist, and that’s what the congratulations was about.
For full disclosure on my own part, I should also mention that my little sister has continued to attend church, and is in fact getting confirmed in a few months. I think based on the evidence I have that there may be a good amount of credence to the theory that women seem more prone to believe for social reasons, especially since most women who I would otherwise expect to be atheist give that as their only reason. So, unfortunately, your daughter may be as hard to lead away from the faith as your wife seems to be. Congratulations with regard to your son though.
Subject to artificial tyranny of the majority:
Spoof the AI with fake uploads to get it to redefine relevant-to-action such that only the spoofs fit the definition.
Rule the world.
I hack the definition of person(in program B) to include my 3^^^3 artificially constructed simple utility maximizers, and use them to take over the world by changing their utility functions to satisfy each of my goals, thereby arbitrarily deciding the “FAI”’s utility function. Extra measures can be added to ensure the safety of my reign, such as making future changes to the definition of human negative utility, &c.
If only I had known earlier! I would have driven up, but I already have plans :C
An interesting project, if it gets off the ground.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/benway/arc-island-a-brave-new-civilization
Having looked through the comments, I noticed that one of your main concerns with this whole ordeal is how your children will be raised. I thought it might be worth mentioning something I noticed, upon reflection, about my own childhood:
I was “raised Catholic” by agreement between my parents- my father is still Catholic, my mother reform Jewish- and went through CCD (I forget what it even stands for, it’s “sunday school”), first confession and first communion. But oddly enough when looking back it was obvious that nobody in my family actually believed in god. And in fact, this attitude that pervaded around me, the fact that nobody expected their prayers to be answered &c. was the main contributing factor to my early conversion to atheism. I actually knew that I didn’t believe, and my parents likely did too, before they forced me to take communion-yes forced, as I am still sometimes forced into attending Easter or Christmas mass with them. The fact is, that even with people all around me vocally professing the existence of god, with people close at hand who obviously didn’t actually believe, I was able to quickly conclude(subconsciously) that they were just expressing belief in belief.
So, the point in all this is that there may be an as of yet unconsidered solution the the problem of raising your children. Even if you raise them Catholic, as long as they have a dissenting opinion present in their lives, it will be if not easy, at least easier for them to deconvert later. As an added bonus, if you decide not to attend any church functions, they may simply see professing atheism as a way to sleep in on sundays, and from professing to believing is as we all know a regrettably short path.
I had a bit of car trouble, but I managed to get here get my coffee and the wifi password, and then realize I forgot a sign or anything of the kind. I’m sitting in the corner near the register if anybody happens to be waiting