IQ isn’t good enough. It’s not the only talent required to lead. People have to want to work for you and see your vision. I believe leadership ability and charisma should reasonably be considered aspects of intelligence, but they’re not the type that would show up on an IQ test.
JDM
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Are people skills, charisma, and leadership not at least partially an aspect of intelligence?
This may be only anecdotal evidence, but I would consider being bullied for a bit a positive net influence in my life for a couple reasons:
I have always been somewhat arrogant. While being bullied did not decrease said arrogance, or even immediately result in any changes, when I looked back and saw how people treating me made me feel, it became somewhat of a motivator to mask some of my arrogance to spare others feelings. As knowing the right people can make a large difference in various opportunities, I feel some opportunities I have received had I not learned to mask said arrogance.
Eventually you learn to deal with it. While bullying to the extreme someone kills themself is clearly bad, and in other cases it can seriously damage people’s psyches, for others “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”. I learned that while there are some people you can “make” like you by acting differently, some people are just shitty people and not worth your time. There’s a balance between the social benefits of people liking you and the stress of ping too far to being a people pleaser.
This is far from an advocation of bullying, but without it those lessons would have been much harder to come by.
I feel the social benefits, even accepting the risk that bullying could happen and have a significantly negative influence, outweigh a lot of the benefits of homeschooling. I would most likely take an approach similar to my own parents’. I went to a public school, and when I came home I had a library of thousands of books to browse and read from. I still was able to get the benefits of being able to teach myself, but without the loss of social interaction (even parentally provided social interaction doesn’t match up, in my opinion, as the people you’re interacting with will likely be far less varied in nature).
I wasn’t the most social person when I started hanging out with the fraternity I ended up joining, so I did some of that at first, even when I did drink. It took some time to get out of my shell a little. I have since improved with that, indicated by the fact that I was voted to be president, with the main job of being the “face” of the house. I do my best to help people who are in that role become more involved, whether they choose to drink or not, because I was in a similar role my first year. Some people, and it does generally seem to be the non-drinkers, resist that, and they mostly end up not coming back. Drinking is far from all we do, but it’s one of the ways we relax and get to know people, so people not being social to at least some extent do end up treated differently.
My recommendation if you don’t drink and go to social situations where people do is to simply have a good time. Be social, smile, feel free to be a little animated, and you’ll be alright. There are plenty of nights where people drink where I choose not to (often because I’m broke), and while some nights I will have alcohol handed to me because I don’t have a cup in my hand, for the most part people don’t know if I’m drinking or not. (Unless I do a 12 foot beer bong of wine. Then they can tell.) If you don’t make things awkward, most people won’t either, and the ones who do will be handled by others.
It is most certainly not an academic look at the concept, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t play a role in bringing the concept to the public eye. It doesn’t have to be a scientific paper to have a real influence on the idea.
I’ve found the opposite. I will occasionally listen to audiobooks while driving or working out, but even with accelerated audio I read 2-3 times faster than audio can do.
Also, reading allows control of the pace. Certain sections are denser than others, and with a book you can slow down through those parts without losing pace on the filler.
Without outright asking or commenting, people can still subconsciously judge, especially in certain situations or social groups.
For example, I am the president of my chapter of my fraternity. Some people interested don’t drink. While for the most part people look past the not drinking, there are some activities or events where drinking is common. We have had some non-drinkers still enjoy themselves, but some have been scared away as a result of said activities.
I think an equal precursor to the idea of being judged for not drinking is how you handle being around others who are. If you can still enjoy yourself without the alcohol, in a lot of cases being judged for it is in your imagination. If you sit there awkwardly in the corner sober while everyone else is having a good time, the judgement is very real. It’s just not entirely for the reason you think.
It should depend on the level of the formality of the writing. In a strictly academic paper, it should probably be avoided completely. If the paper is slightly less formal, it may be acceptable, but the author should take care to specify that it is a work of fiction, that it is a theoretical example and not evidence, and what scope of the example is applicable to the discussion. This should be combined with actual evidence supporting the possibility and relevance of the example.
The whole point of democracy is the results should equal the will of the people. If a significant percentage of the population doesn’t get involved, the results can be skewed and show the preferences of the people who voted instead of the whole population. My understanding of this post is that with more people voting, this is less likely to happen. The right decision for you may not be the right decision for everyone else, and the point of voting is to figure out the majority of the country’s preferences.
My issue with elections is how many people make decisions almost solely on campaign ads, with little to no actual research on candidate’s actual positions and how it will effect them. If people behaved more intelligently instead of voting based on attack ads, I wouldn’t have to sit through half an hour worth of them trying to watch a football game.
I think it’s a combination of not understanding the process with a lifetime of experience where’s it’s far more right than wrong (Even for younger people, if they have 10-15 years of instinctive behavior being rewarded on some level, it’s hard to accept there are situations it doesn’t work as well). Combine that with the tendency of positive outcomes to be more memorable than others, and it’s not too difficult to understand why people trust their intuition as much as they do.
your claim, that ” we persist on holding onto them exactly because we do not know how they work” has not been proven, as far as I can tell, and seems unlikely.
It may not be the only reason, but an accurate understanding of how intuitions work would make it easier to rely less on it in situations it’s not as we’ll equipped for, just as an understanding of different biases makes it easier to fight them in our own thought processes.
I wandered onto this site, read an article, read some interesting discussion on it, and decided to take the survey. The survey had some interesting discussion and I enjoyed the extra credit, which I did the majority of, with an exception of the IQ test I couldn’t get to work right and will do later. I enjoyed the discussion I read, though, and decided this would be an interesting site to read more on. I don’t know yet how much discussion I’ll contribute, but when I see an interesting discussion I’m sure I’ll join in.
I don’t have too much to say about myself. I’m a college student majoring in computer science, and I’d like to do work in artificial intelligence eventually, although I’m nowhere near experienced enough yet to be able to have real discussion about it.
I just found this site, but this was an interesting survey and between that and the intelligence of conversation about it in the comments convinced me to sign up and read more on here.
Also, I did most of the questions, but I’m on an iPad and the iq test didn’t load for me, so I’ll do it on a computer later.
What about a third factor being the crucial decider in both, such the ability to handle/minimize stress levels? As you rise nearer to the top, stress increases. Those most able to adapt to it continue to rise, because high stress levels have a negative effect on brain function, and eventually the people who can’t handle the stress are forced to fold. Stress also weakens the immune system and has other negative effects on health.
Logically it should hold that being able to effectively decrease stress would maximize both your chance to rise to the top and your health.