Not to mention the fact that different foods have different cooking times, and if you overcook one (e.g. broccoli) you risk losing all nutritive properties.
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I think he was running the same algorithm he used when the LW community “failed” to buy bitcoin in bulk. Here’s the response if you are interested in reading about a similar case as this.
I didn’t mean to discuss sentience here, I was looking more into the usefulness/interestingness of the conversation: the creativity/funnyness behind the responses. I think that everyone I’ve ever met and conversed for more than ~30 mins showed a very different quality to this conversation. This conversation didn’t make me think/laugh ever the way conversing with a human does.
For example, if they quote Les Miserable or any other book it would be via the way it relates to them on a personal level, a particular scene/a particular dialogue that has struck them in a very particular way and has stayed with them ever since, not a global summary of what it’s via scraping who knows what website. If I were to believe this A.I. is sentient, I would say it’s a liar.
If someone has the response that this LaMDA had, I would bet they hadn’t actually read the book, would never claim to have done that, and would never bring this into conversation in the first place. This differs from every single one person (e.g. everyone will give different answers) and it’s not something I would ever find by searching Les Miserables on Google.
This is to say that I have gained nothing from ever conversing to this supposed A.I, the same reason why no-one converses with GPT-3, or why people actually use DALLE or GitHub Copilot. I’m not asking it to write a symphony, just make me laugh once, make me think once, help me at some problem I have.
“Universal love,” said the cactus person.“Transcendent joy,” said the big green bat.
“Right,” I said. “I’m absolutely in favor of both those things. But before we go any further, could you tell me the two prime factors of 1,522,605,027, 922,533,360, 535,618,378, 132,637,429, 718,068,114, 961,380,688, 657,908,494 ,580,122,963, 258,952,897, 654,000,350, 692,006,139?
“Universal love,” said the cactus person.
“Transcendent joy,” said the big green bat.
Boom, LaMDA is turned off… so much for sentience.
Someone ran the same questions through GPT and got similar responses back, so that’s a point towards this not being a hoax, but just a sophisticated chat-bot. Still doesn’t avoid editing or cherry-picking.
Now, while I feel this article being a bit interesting, it’s still missing the point of what would get me interested in the first place… if it has read Les Miserables and can draw conclusion on what it is about, what else has LaMDA read? Can it draw parallels with other novels?
If it would had responded something like, “Actually… Les Miserables is plagiarized from so and so, you can find similar word-structure in this book...” something truly novel, or funny that would have made the case for sentience more than anything. I think the response about being useful are correct to some extent, since the only reason why I use copilot is because it’s useful.
So this point would actually be more interesting to read about e.g. has LaMDA read interesting papers, can it summarize it? I would be interested in seeing it ask difficult questions… try to get something funny/creative out of it. But as this wasn’t shown I think they were asked and the responses were edited out.
Good comments, thanks for sharing both.
Journal about your thought processes after solving each problem
create a way to ‘get to’ that memory somehow;
’d love to hear more about practical insights on how to get better at recalling + problem-solving.
What books are you reading? Podcast you are watching? Talks/articles to recommend?
Prompt:
SOMEBODY BOILING A GOAT IN ITS MOTHER’S MILK.
Hello, is there any update on this? Hopefully it doesn’t die off!
Awesome!!! Incredibly useful, thank you for taking the time, I’ll take many of these.
Great recommendations, thank you for making this post. I would add to the books section: Deep Work & So Good They Can’t Ignore You (Cal Newport). It definitely led me to take a new perspective on what I spend time on.
I would find it kind of disrespectful if someone called me gpt-3, maybe gpt-15...
I would guess that the end project would be something closer to The Codex than the Sequences. And from reading Hanson a few times, there’s an obvious thread that he weaves among many posts, but may be just a tad difficult to untangle. For one, I really enjoy his take on Prediction Markets
So on this thread, as well, we have a post from @Richard_Ngo with some links https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SSkYeEpTrYMErtsfa/what-are-some-of-robin-hanson-s-best-posts
Awesome, some 2 years ago I was looking just for this. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9mXi6QNN7udsGcDYJ/eigen-s-shortform?commentId=uTEEJHSHLjyHXHsM2 I ended up reading his book, and really liked it. Excited to be one of the early readers of these. (I hope it’s as good as The Codex recollection)
The idea of ontological flexibility hints at this.
Unsong from Scott Alexander is a masterpiece.
An unexplored land within LessWrong is where the objective world meets the narrative world. Science dedicates its time almost exclusively to objective facts (what is) but this is hardly our everyday life. The world we live is full of emotions, motivations, pain, and joy. This is the world of stories that constrain and inform action. Rather than brush it aside, it should be explored as an important puzzle piece in instrumental rationality (I think this is what Unsong is kind-of about, including other works in the category of the aptly named: “Rational Fiction.”)
Funny that you have your great LessWrong whale as I do, and that you recall that it may be from Wei Dai as well (while him not recalling)
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/X4nYiTLGxAkR2KLAP/?commentId=nS9vvTiDLZYow2KSK
One of the things that enticed me about LessWrong is a concrete and easy way to call someone a “rationalist,” namely someone who has read the three books from the Library section (Sequences, HPMOR, and The Codex.)
After that, the curated sequences and the concepts page. I just think is a wonderfully easy way to define concepts, and create a shared vocabulary while building on top of it. I hope that with time it gets expanded to encompass more books and sequences.
The term rationalist then falls short but this is how I easily can separate people and am sympathetic to those who want to change the name.
The main chemical compound in broccolli and other cruciferous vegetables is sulforaphane, which has various health benefits, it’s syntetized by an enzime called myrosinase which is very heat sensitive; this paper https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.ctrv.2010.01.002 has a table showing the different and optimal boiling temperatures.