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Do you know any coach who does this? I will pay $100 for a link
Looking for a coach who:
collects long-term (6mo+) data on outcomes from all responsive clients
uses that data to improve long-term mental health outcomes and reduce “flaky breakthroughs”
I wasn’t aware of — not Chris Lakin, Max Shen, maybe Sasha
is in this broad network
has online presence as a coach
“Collects long-term data” = following up with clients to check for lasting results at least 6 months after work has ended
oooh I hadn’t considered specialist that’s nice and neutral, thanks!
Ah okay. Also, given this, what would you call what I do? I sell secure attachment to everything, and try to have this happen after as few sessions as possible. Consultant? Practitioner?
This makes a lot of sense if you work with all clients for a long time!
It’s been surprising for me that most coaches don’t see their role as helping people resolve specific issues. What do they see their role as?
Oh wow this is an extremely good point. Why aren’t coaches higher agency hahaha
edit: tweeted about it, thanks
This morning I realized the guideline I was referring to is only for current clients, not past clients. There may other guidelines against soliciting testimonials from past clients but I’m not sure
Agree with your point on testimonials vs data collection, too
It actually turns out to be illegal for therapists to collect long-term testimonials, sad.
Edit: Wait this is only for current clients. Past clients may be fine…?
while you’re here—I’m curious if you think this will result in lasting growth or flaky breakthrough? I would’ve thought the latter from the top tweet, but
it seems many or most of them were- are!- honestly and earnestly deluded.
I agree with this
Check in a year later.
I do this
There is no end of samsara in this life. The human RL loop won’t allow it.
I think this is jumping to conclusions
It’s difficult for people to make commitments this big.
Could you explain more what you’re pointing to?
This problem of “says one thing in the moment, then reverts to previous behavior later on” closely mirrors a common problem in naively implemented hypnotherapy.
Just wrote a post about this btw — “Flaky breakthroughs” pervade coaching — and no one tracks them
“Flaky breakthroughs” pervade coaching — but no one tracks them
retroactive funding spotted in the wild! :D (tweeted about it)
Yea
could different types of social anxiety be differently motivated? Some people might genuinely be optimizing for approval rather than avoiding disapproval. This might explain why some socially anxious people become people-pleasers while others become avoidant.
eh perhap the “motivations” or “causes” are different, but I believe symptoms like this are all resolved the same way: by becoming secure
I wonder if this also explains why exposure therapy works for social anxiety
(I agree that it works sometimes, but lots of people bang their head with naive exposure. Exposure therapy, when actually facilitated by a seasoned expert, may work well— but lots of people hurt themselves with the naive version. And past a certain point there is definitely saturation because you actually can’t exposure yourself to the true worst case scenarios)
There are six different posts on my blog about this.
(The trouble is I haven’t often seen someone read one of these posts and follow it correctly— People come in with too many wrong misconceptions about psychology. Doing it right looks more like not doing bad things than doing right things, which unfortunately is a highly individualistic process because everyone has different memetic viruses.)
Missing context for this post that I didn’t have at the time is that self-acceptance is default https://chrislakin.blog/p/default