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Metaethics

TagLast edit: 16 Nov 2021 10:22 UTC by Yoav Ravid

Metaethics is one of the three branches of ethics usually recognized by philosophers, the others being normative ethics and applied ethics. It’s a field of study that tries to understand the metaphysical, epistemological and semantic characteristics as well as the foundations and scope of moral values. It worries about questions and problems such as “Are moral judgments objective or subjective, relative or absolute?”, “Do moral facts exist?” or “How do we learn moral values?”. (As distinct from object-level moral questions like, “Ought I to steal from banks in order to give the money to the deserving poor?”)

Metaethics on LessWrong

Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote a Sequence about metaethics, the Metaethics sequence, which Yudkowsky worried failed to convey his central point (this post by Luke tried to clarify); he approached the same problem again from a different angle in Highly Advanced Epistemology 101 for Beginners. From a standard philosophical standpoint, Yudkowsky’s philosophy is closest to Frank Jackson’s moral functionalism /​ analytic descriptivism; Yudkowsky could be loosely characterized as moral cognitivist—someone who believes moral sentences are either true or false—but not a moral realist—thus denying that moral sentences refer to facts about the world. Yudkowsky believes that moral cognition in any single human is at least potentially about a subject matter that is ‘logical’ in the sense that its semantics can be pinned down by axioms, and hence that moral cognition can bear truth-values; also that human beings both using similar words like “morality” can be talking about highly overlapping subject matter; but not that all possible minds would find the truths about this subject matter to be psychologically compelling.

Luke Muehlhauser has written a sequence, No-Nonsense Metaethics, where he claims that many of the questions of metaethics can be answered today using modern neuroscience and rationality. He explains how conventional metaethics or “Austere Metaethics” is capable of, after assuming a definition of ‘right’, choosing the right action given a situation—but useless without assuming some criteria for ‘right’. He proposes instead “Empathic Metaethics” which utilizes your underlying cognitive algorithms to understand what you think ‘right’ means, helps clarify any emotional and cognitive contradictions in it, and then tells you what the right thing to do is, according to your definition of right. This approach is highly relevant for the Friendly AI problem as a way of defining human-like goals and motivations when designing AIs.

Further Reading & References

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By Which It May Be Judged

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Mo­ral un­cer­tainty vs re­lated concepts

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The Value Defi­ni­tion Problem

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What is Eliezer Yud­kowsky’s meta-eth­i­cal the­ory?

lukeprog29 Jan 2011 19:58 UTC
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Deon­tol­ogy for Consequentialists

Alicorn30 Jan 2010 17:58 UTC
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Mo­ral un­cer­tainty: What kind of ‘should’ is in­volved?

MichaelA13 Jan 2020 12:13 UTC
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Real­ism and Rationality

bmgarfinkel16 Sep 2019 3:09 UTC
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Con­cep­tual Anal­y­sis and Mo­ral Theory

lukeprog16 May 2011 6:28 UTC
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Why didn’t peo­ple (ap­par­ently?) un­der­stand the metaethics se­quence?

ChrisHallquist29 Oct 2013 23:04 UTC
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Could Any­thing Be Right?

Eliezer Yudkowsky18 Jul 2008 7:19 UTC
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Ex­is­ten­tial Angst Factory

Eliezer Yudkowsky19 Jul 2008 6:55 UTC
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The AGI Op­ti­mist’s Dilemma

kaputmi23 Feb 2023 20:20 UTC
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De­con­fus­ing Hu­man Values Re­search Agenda v1

Gordon Seidoh Worley23 Mar 2020 16:25 UTC
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Fun­da­men­tal Uncer­tainty: Chap­ter 3 - Why don’t we agree on what’s right?

Gordon Seidoh Worley25 Jun 2022 17:50 UTC
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Nor­ma­tivity and Meta-Philosophy

Wei Dai23 Apr 2013 20:35 UTC
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Quick thoughts on em­pathic metaethics

lukeprog12 Dec 2017 21:46 UTC
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Is Mo­ral­ity Given?

Eliezer Yudkowsky6 Jul 2008 8:12 UTC
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[Valence se­ries] 2. Valence & Normativity

Steven Byrnes7 Dec 2023 16:43 UTC
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Chang­ing Your Metaethics

Eliezer Yudkowsky27 Jul 2008 12:36 UTC
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Three Wor­lds Col­lide (0/​8)

Eliezer Yudkowsky30 Jan 2009 12:07 UTC
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The Mean­ing of Right

Eliezer Yudkowsky29 Jul 2008 1:28 UTC
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25 Min Talk on Me­taEth­i­cal.AI with Ques­tions from Stu­art Armstrong

June Ku29 Apr 2021 15:38 UTC
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Log­i­cal Foun­da­tions of Govern­ment Policy

FCCC10 Oct 2020 17:05 UTC
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Can we make peace with moral in­de­ter­mi­nacy?

Charlie Steiner3 Oct 2019 12:56 UTC
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Meta-prefer­ences two ways: gen­er­a­tor vs. patch

Charlie Steiner1 Apr 2020 0:51 UTC
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A the­ory of hu­man values

Stuart_Armstrong13 Mar 2019 15:22 UTC
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Re­sponse to nos­talge­braist: proudly wav­ing my moral-an­tire­al­ist bat­tle flag

Steven Byrnes29 May 2024 16:48 UTC
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Su­per­in­tel­li­gence Can’t Solve the Prob­lem of De­cid­ing What You’ll Do

Vladimir_Nesov15 Sep 2024 21:03 UTC
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Against meta-eth­i­cal hedonism

Joe Carlsmith2 Dec 2022 0:23 UTC
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The Cat­e­gor­i­cal Im­per­a­tive Obscures

Gordon Seidoh Worley6 Dec 2022 17:48 UTC
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Ar­gu­ments for moral indefinability

Richard_Ngo30 Sep 2023 22:40 UTC
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(www.thinkingcomplete.com)

You Prov­ably Can’t Trust Yourself

Eliezer Yudkowsky19 Aug 2008 20:35 UTC
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Insep­a­rably Right; or, Joy in the Merely Good

Eliezer Yudkowsky9 Aug 2008 1:00 UTC
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Crit­i­cism of Eliezer’s ir­ra­tional moral beliefs

Jorterder16 Jun 2023 20:47 UTC
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Ele­ments of Com­pu­ta­tional Philos­o­phy, Vol. I: Truth

1 Jul 2023 11:44 UTC
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(compphil.github.io)

Philo­soph­i­cal self-ratification

jessicata3 Feb 2020 22:48 UTC
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(unstableontology.com)

Whither Mo­ral Progress?

Eliezer Yudkowsky16 Jul 2008 5:04 UTC
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Mir­rors and Paintings

Eliezer Yudkowsky23 Aug 2008 0:29 UTC
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Mo­ral Er­ror and Mo­ral Disagreement

Eliezer Yudkowsky10 Aug 2008 23:32 UTC
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In­ner Goodness

Eliezer Yudkowsky23 Oct 2008 22:19 UTC
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The Be­drock of Fairness

Eliezer Yudkowsky3 Jul 2008 6:00 UTC
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Is Fair­ness Ar­bi­trary?

Eliezer Yudkowsky14 Aug 2008 1:54 UTC
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In­visi­ble Frameworks

Eliezer Yudkowsky22 Aug 2008 3:36 UTC
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Ethics Notes

Eliezer Yudkowsky21 Oct 2008 21:57 UTC
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Mo­ral Real­ity Check (a short story)

jessicata26 Nov 2023 5:03 UTC
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Re­solv­ing moral un­cer­tainty with randomization

29 Sep 2023 11:23 UTC
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[LINK] Scott Aaron­son on Google, Break­ing Cir­cu­lar­ity and Eigenmorality

Shmi19 Jun 2014 20:17 UTC
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What are the lef­tover ques­tions of metaethics?

cousin_it28 Apr 2011 8:46 UTC
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Mo­ral­ity is Awesome

[deleted]6 Jan 2013 15:21 UTC
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Mo­ral Golems

Erich_Grunewald3 Apr 2021 10:12 UTC
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RFC: Meta-eth­i­cal un­cer­tainty in AGI alignment

Gordon Seidoh Worley8 Jun 2018 20:56 UTC
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RFC: Philo­soph­i­cal Con­ser­vatism in AI Align­ment Research

Gordon Seidoh Worley15 May 2018 3:29 UTC
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Neo-Mohism

Bae's Theorem16 Jun 2021 21:57 UTC
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[Question] How can there be a god­less moral world ?

momom221 Jun 2021 12:34 UTC
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The Me­taethics and Nor­ma­tive Ethics of AGI Value Align­ment: Many Ques­tions, Some Implications

Eleos Arete Citrini16 Sep 2021 16:13 UTC
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[Book Re­view] “Suffer­ing-fo­cused Ethics” by Mag­nus Vinding

KStub28 Dec 2021 5:58 UTC
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Re­view: G.E.M. An­scombe’s “Modern Mo­ral Philos­o­phy”

David Gross20 Feb 2022 18:58 UTC
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Reflec­tion Mechanisms as an Align­ment tar­get: A survey

22 Jun 2022 15:05 UTC
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What Should AI Owe To Us? Ac­countable and Aligned AI Sys­tems via Con­trac­tu­al­ist AI Alignment

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Against the nor­ma­tive re­al­ist’s wager

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Ques­tions about Value Lock-in, Pa­ter­nal­ism, and Empowerment

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Two Dog­mas of LessWrong

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What can thought-ex­per­i­ments do?

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Solv­ing For Meta-Ethics By In­duc­ing From The Self

VisionaryHera20 Jan 2023 7:21 UTC
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Book Re­view: Spiritual En­light­en­ment: The Damnedest Thing

Cole Killian21 Jan 2023 2:38 UTC
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What kind of place is this?

Jim Pivarski25 Feb 2023 2:14 UTC
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Reflec­tion Mechanisms as an Align­ment Tar­get—At­ti­tudes on “near-term” AI

2 Mar 2023 4:29 UTC
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[Question] Math­e­mat­i­cal mod­els of Ethics

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your ter­mi­nal val­ues are com­plex and not objective

Tamsin Leake13 Mar 2023 13:34 UTC
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Value Plu­ral­ism and AI

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While we’re on the sub­ject of meta-ethics...

CronoDAS17 Apr 2009 8:01 UTC
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A Bench­mark for De­ci­sion Theories

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Open-ended ethics of phe­nom­ena (a desider­ata with uni­ver­sal moral­ity)

Ryo 8 Nov 2023 20:10 UTC
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What is Mo­ral­ity?

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[Question] Is ob­jec­tive moral­ity self-defeat­ing?

dialectica30 Jul 2024 18:23 UTC
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Karpenchuk’s The­ory: Hu­man Life as a Si­mu­la­tion for Con­scious­ness Development

Karpenchuk Bohdan 2 Aug 2024 0:03 UTC
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Wager­ing on Will And Worth (Pas­cals Wager for Free Will and Value)

Robert Cousineau27 Nov 2024 0:43 UTC
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Im­pli­ca­tions—How Con­scious Sig­nifi­cance Could In­form Our lives

James Stephen Brown26 Nov 2024 17:42 UTC
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My un­bundling of morality

Rudi C30 Dec 2020 15:19 UTC
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AI Align­ment, Philo­soph­i­cal Plu­ral­ism, and the Rele­vance of Non-Western Philosophy

xuan1 Jan 2021 0:08 UTC
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Value uncertainty

MichaelA29 Jan 2020 20:16 UTC
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Mo­ral­ity vs re­lated concepts

MichaelA7 Jan 2020 10:47 UTC
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​​ Open-ended/​Phenom­e­nal ​Ethics ​(TLDR)

Ryo 9 Nov 2023 16:58 UTC
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Op­tion­al­ity ap­proach to ethics

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Why small phe­nomenons are rele­vant to moral­ity ​

Ryo 13 Nov 2023 15:25 UTC
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Re­ac­tion to “Em­pow­er­ment is (al­most) All We Need” : an open-ended alternative

Ryo 25 Nov 2023 15:35 UTC
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Six Plau­si­ble Meta-Eth­i­cal Alternatives

Wei Dai6 Aug 2014 0:04 UTC
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The Ur­gent Meta-Ethics of Friendly Ar­tifi­cial Intelligence

lukeprog1 Feb 2011 14:15 UTC
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Head­ing Toward: No-Non­sense Metaethics

lukeprog24 Apr 2011 0:42 UTC
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The Mo­ral Void

Eliezer Yudkowsky30 Jun 2008 8:52 UTC
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Plu­ral­is­tic Mo­ral Reductionism

lukeprog1 Jun 2011 0:59 UTC
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No Univer­sally Com­pel­ling Arguments

Eliezer Yudkowsky26 Jun 2008 8:29 UTC
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Created Already In Motion

Eliezer Yudkowsky1 Jul 2008 6:03 UTC
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The Sheer Folly of Cal­low Youth

Eliezer Yudkowsky19 Sep 2008 1:30 UTC
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Set­ting Up Metaethics

Eliezer Yudkowsky28 Jul 2008 2:25 UTC
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Mo­ral Complexities

Eliezer Yudkowsky4 Jul 2008 6:43 UTC
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Causal­ity and Mo­ral Responsibility

Eliezer Yudkowsky13 Jun 2008 8:34 UTC
55 points
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On Ob­jec­tive Ethics, and a bit about boats

EndlessBlue31 May 2023 11:40 UTC
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