For less loaded terms, maybe Create, Consume, Exploit or Create, Enjoy, Exploit as the set of actions available. Looks like loosely what was settled on above.
Where exploit more naturally captures things like soulless commercialization and others low key taking advantage of those enjoying the scene.
Consume in the context or rationalists would more be people who read the best techniques on offer and then go try to use them for things that aren’t “advancing the art” itself, like addressing x-risk.
Related, how does spin-off subcultures fit into this model? E.g. in music you have people that consume an innovation in one genre, then reinvent it in their own scene where they’re a creator. I think there’s similar dynamics in various LW adjacent subcultures, though I’m not up enough on detailed histories to comment.
If the spin-off group identifies differently and meets at different places, that is okay, because it does not prevent the original group from their original ways.
I think there’s similar dynamics in various LW adjacent subcultures
I agree. Less Wrong is a well-defended fortress. The spin-off subcultures have their own online places, such as Astral Codex Ten, Effective Altruism Forum, the places where post-rats meet, etc.
(Even if we copy or link each other’s articles, it is always selected articles, which are then discussed by a different audience. In music, I guess an analogy would be a song that is halfway between two genres, being played at different festivals for different audiences.)
For less loaded terms, maybe Create, Consume, Exploit or Create, Enjoy, Exploit as the set of actions available. Looks like loosely what was settled on above.
Where exploit more naturally captures things like soulless commercialization and others low key taking advantage of those enjoying the scene.
Consume in the context or rationalists would more be people who read the best techniques on offer and then go try to use them for things that aren’t “advancing the art” itself, like addressing x-risk.
Related, how does spin-off subcultures fit into this model? E.g. in music you have people that consume an innovation in one genre, then reinvent it in their own scene where they’re a creator. I think there’s similar dynamics in various LW adjacent subcultures, though I’m not up enough on detailed histories to comment.
If the spin-off group identifies differently and meets at different places, that is okay, because it does not prevent the original group from their original ways.
I agree. Less Wrong is a well-defended fortress. The spin-off subcultures have their own online places, such as Astral Codex Ten, Effective Altruism Forum, the places where post-rats meet, etc.
(Even if we copy or link each other’s articles, it is always selected articles, which are then discussed by a different audience. In music, I guess an analogy would be a song that is halfway between two genres, being played at different festivals for different audiences.)