Not enough karma to post anywhere else so i guess i’ll post this here. This is from a few days ago.
I’m currently a psychology undergrad and i was talking to a fellow student who had some odd symptoms.
I took out my notepad and jotted a few things down.
“I don’t necessarily lose consciousness, but when i’m going about my day, i suddenly find myself in a different place to what i had intended on going.
Sort of like going into a sleep walking state during the day then snapping out of it a few moments later.
For example if i’m walking somewhere like the kitchen, my brain seemingly shuts off and i find myself in the bathroom almost if i had teleported there.
I’m not sure if it’s some kind of sudden memory loss.
It’s like a split second loss of consciousness. like someone else is controlling me for a few seconds with me not realizing it. ”
This happens to him apparently 2-3 time a day.
He tells me he doesn’t suffer from bad memory or amnesia. When i told him it’s common to suddenly forget what you were doing for example I.E when talking to someone pouring liquid overflowing the glass.
He told me he knew what that was and stated that it wasn’t similar to what he was experiencing. He said that it feels like suddenly (in a few seconds time) involuntarily finding yourself from the wrong place.
I asked him things like can he see during this state and he told me that he doesn’t know.
He further explained that it feels like he doesn’t exist in that point in time that his body has been hijacked and someone else is controlling him while he is in a non-conscious non-existing state.
I asked him later what he looks like to outside observers or that have they remarked on these symptoms and he told me that they sometimes ask him “Why did you just walk to that door and back again?” After class had finished or “Why did you just walk around the table and spin around” during lunch.
I couldn’t find that much info on this online so i’m making this post to ask if anyone else has had these kind of experiences or if they have heard of people who had or know more about this.
Thanks.
The best fitting symptoms are those of automatism), a kind of epileptyc seizure where the person lose consciousness and starts to do automatic behaviour. As with anything associated with epilepsy, he should treat the symptoms very seriously and promptly consult a neurologist.
From a hypnosis perspective I would say that he falls in somnambulistic trance state. I however don’t know people regularly falling into such a state 2-3 times a day for no reason.
How well does he sleep? It might be interesting to get a Smartwatch with sensors to see whether his vital signs change in those episodes.
To note i have had people tell me it’s a Fugue state. I don’t think so mainly because Fugue state usually lasts anywhere from a hour to a day. Maybe this might be a short Fugue state but i doubt it.
I think I remember in the Sequences dude is talking about how he’s on the phone and someone is talking about chest pains and the emts won’t take them. He’s like “huh, that’s odd”, and comes up with reasons. Turns out its just a fake.
Seems like that’s what’s going on here. The odds that someone has this incredibly bizarre illness, yet has managed to function to the point that he’s a student (never got puppetted off the road, or into traffic, etc.), yet confides in you, and his problems don’t match up to stuff that happens to lots of people (No one else goes crazy like this, it’s weird enough that it’d be a known thing)… OR, a human is lying.
I imagine a condition causing these symptoms would be tested by putting the person under observation for a day or a few days. It might be possible to get them to attend a sleep lab, if the events happen while they are asleep too then that might be a key to diagnosing it as easy/fast as possible. Otherwise does the person know of anything that causes the events more or less?
Also the general rule for diagnosing/treating conditions—is it negatively impacting their life? If not then leave it alone.
if:
they are curious and really want to know, get further testing done.
they are in danger—i.e. find themselves unable to drive a car safely due to strange events
their life is impacted greatly (i.e. cannot drive a car)
If it’s not doing anything bad; leave it.
If it’s an early symptom of a condition it might help them to be diagnosed, I don’t know why but it could also be like Schizophrenia.
Thanks Nancy.
Some of the symptoms are similar to states caused by epilepsy., but i’m not sure if they are seizures or not. It’s not like he stops and his eyes roll back. According to him it only lasts around 5-20 seconds. And seems pretty normal to observers. I guess the best way he could explain it was that someone just controls him completely for a few seconds.
And to him it feels like a snap of fingers. He goes to brush his teeth, looking in the mirror he lifts up the tooth brush SNAP he is no longer facing the mirror. He then resumes brushing of teeth facing back at the mirror.
Strongly second the advice to have him go to a psychiatrist or neurologist. The type of seizure you are thinking of is a grand mal seizure which is not the only kind. This sounds like a very typical partial seizure to me.
Not enough karma to post anywhere else so i guess i’ll post this here. This is from a few days ago.
I’m currently a psychology undergrad and i was talking to a fellow student who had some odd symptoms.
I took out my notepad and jotted a few things down. “I don’t necessarily lose consciousness, but when i’m going about my day, i suddenly find myself in a different place to what i had intended on going. Sort of like going into a sleep walking state during the day then snapping out of it a few moments later. For example if i’m walking somewhere like the kitchen, my brain seemingly shuts off and i find myself in the bathroom almost if i had teleported there. I’m not sure if it’s some kind of sudden memory loss. It’s like a split second loss of consciousness. like someone else is controlling me for a few seconds with me not realizing it. ”
This happens to him apparently 2-3 time a day. He tells me he doesn’t suffer from bad memory or amnesia. When i told him it’s common to suddenly forget what you were doing for example I.E when talking to someone pouring liquid overflowing the glass. He told me he knew what that was and stated that it wasn’t similar to what he was experiencing. He said that it feels like suddenly (in a few seconds time) involuntarily finding yourself from the wrong place. I asked him things like can he see during this state and he told me that he doesn’t know. He further explained that it feels like he doesn’t exist in that point in time that his body has been hijacked and someone else is controlling him while he is in a non-conscious non-existing state.
I asked him later what he looks like to outside observers or that have they remarked on these symptoms and he told me that they sometimes ask him “Why did you just walk to that door and back again?” After class had finished or “Why did you just walk around the table and spin around” during lunch.
I couldn’t find that much info on this online so i’m making this post to ask if anyone else has had these kind of experiences or if they have heard of people who had or know more about this. Thanks.
Video demonstration of my findings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVzt2lQsg4E&feature=youtu.be
Possibly similar to absence seizures or complex partial seizures. This person should really be checking with a neurologist rather than a psychology undergrad.
Well he wasn’t “Checking in” with me. I was just talking to him and taking notes.
The best fitting symptoms are those of automatism), a kind of epileptyc seizure where the person lose consciousness and starts to do automatic behaviour.
As with anything associated with epilepsy, he should treat the symptoms very seriously and promptly consult a neurologist.
From a hypnosis perspective I would say that he falls in somnambulistic trance state. I however don’t know people regularly falling into such a state 2-3 times a day for no reason.
How well does he sleep? It might be interesting to get a Smartwatch with sensors to see whether his vital signs change in those episodes.
I’ll ask him how he sleeps when i talk to him next time i’ll also mention the possibility of trying a Smartwatch.
To note i have had people tell me it’s a Fugue state. I don’t think so mainly because Fugue state usually lasts anywhere from a hour to a day. Maybe this might be a short Fugue state but i doubt it.
I think I remember in the Sequences dude is talking about how he’s on the phone and someone is talking about chest pains and the emts won’t take them. He’s like “huh, that’s odd”, and comes up with reasons. Turns out its just a fake.
Seems like that’s what’s going on here. The odds that someone has this incredibly bizarre illness, yet has managed to function to the point that he’s a student (never got puppetted off the road, or into traffic, etc.), yet confides in you, and his problems don’t match up to stuff that happens to lots of people (No one else goes crazy like this, it’s weird enough that it’d be a known thing)… OR, a human is lying.
Here, I think.
[EDITED to add:] This case doesn’t seem so unbelievable to me, though—but I may be underestimating its implausibility.
update: asked someone else; they say likely epilepsy.
worth considering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome—for uncontrollable compulsion to do a thing.
I imagine a condition causing these symptoms would be tested by putting the person under observation for a day or a few days. It might be possible to get them to attend a sleep lab, if the events happen while they are asleep too then that might be a key to diagnosing it as easy/fast as possible. Otherwise does the person know of anything that causes the events more or less?
Also the general rule for diagnosing/treating conditions—is it negatively impacting their life? If not then leave it alone.
if:
they are curious and really want to know, get further testing done.
they are in danger—i.e. find themselves unable to drive a car safely due to strange events
their life is impacted greatly (i.e. cannot drive a car)
If it’s not doing anything bad; leave it.
If it’s an early symptom of a condition it might help them to be diagnosed, I don’t know why but it could also be like Schizophrenia.
Welcome.
As for your friend, I would very tentatively go with some sort of epilepsy.
Thanks Nancy. Some of the symptoms are similar to states caused by epilepsy., but i’m not sure if they are seizures or not. It’s not like he stops and his eyes roll back. According to him it only lasts around 5-20 seconds. And seems pretty normal to observers. I guess the best way he could explain it was that someone just controls him completely for a few seconds. And to him it feels like a snap of fingers. He goes to brush his teeth, looking in the mirror he lifts up the tooth brush SNAP he is no longer facing the mirror. He then resumes brushing of teeth facing back at the mirror.
Strongly second the advice to have him go to a psychiatrist or neurologist. The type of seizure you are thinking of is a grand mal seizure which is not the only kind. This sounds like a very typical partial seizure to me.