Maybe by chance I checked the one US state that’s different from all others, and many EU countries? Probably not.
You did. Most states require autopsy for any criminal/unnatural causes of death, including suicide. Oregon (and Washington) has a death with dignity law, which makes suicide non-criminal in some cases. The standard autopsy exemption in most states comes from a doctor’s signature that the cause of death was known and natural. To my knowledge there’s no compendium of state autopsy laws anywhere, you have to look state by state, but on average suicide is an instant mandatory autopsy.
In some states you can block an autopsy based on religious belief. Some people have organized to make cryonics a verified religious exemption to save time on paperwork. Only a few states explicitly allow this, however. See here.
Thanks, I stand corrected on that (darn Occam’s Razor for being a heuristic that’s subject to occasional failure).
However, I shouldn’t have brought that speculative part up. It’s peripheral to my point, which is that it’s still doable to travel to a place without mandatory autopsies, and to give up a few e.g. weeks of your life for instant cryonification.
Consider:
After a mere around four hours after a stroke (subject to national guidelines), there’s no significant treatment done anymore! Not only is the central zone of oxygen deprivation given up upon after a span of minutes to an hour, but the peripheral cells (the penumbra) is as well (after those around 4 hours).
When you die, the entirety of your brain is equivalent to the central area, the ground zero of a stroke, just in terms of oxygen deprivation.
It’s a whole other ballpark. Cryonics after more than a few minutes should be called MangledBrainFreezing, it’s just that different.
I can’t fathom why people who supposedly whole-heartedly (whole brainedly) invested in cryonics don’t find ways around such simple barriers as autopsy regulations. (Simple because even if as an alternative there’s only 1 state in the US, and a couple European countries, really how many workarounds do you need? Just one.)
Not taking care of that eventuality only makes sense to me if in fact the investment for psychological reasons outweighs the actual credence one lends to cryonics. I realize that doesn’t apply to all subscribers.
If you had picked a state at random, Occam’s Razor (or Bayes rule or whatever) would have applied. Given that someone was providing you with an example of a state without suicide autopsies, you should update significantly less on other states having that property.
You did. Most states require autopsy for any criminal/unnatural causes of death, including suicide. Oregon (and Washington) has a death with dignity law, which makes suicide non-criminal in some cases. The standard autopsy exemption in most states comes from a doctor’s signature that the cause of death was known and natural. To my knowledge there’s no compendium of state autopsy laws anywhere, you have to look state by state, but on average suicide is an instant mandatory autopsy.
In some states you can block an autopsy based on religious belief. Some people have organized to make cryonics a verified religious exemption to save time on paperwork. Only a few states explicitly allow this, however. See here.
Thanks, I stand corrected on that (darn Occam’s Razor for being a heuristic that’s subject to occasional failure).
However, I shouldn’t have brought that speculative part up. It’s peripheral to my point, which is that it’s still doable to travel to a place without mandatory autopsies, and to give up a few e.g. weeks of your life for instant cryonification.
Consider:
After a mere around four hours after a stroke (subject to national guidelines), there’s no significant treatment done anymore! Not only is the central zone of oxygen deprivation given up upon after a span of minutes to an hour, but the peripheral cells (the penumbra) is as well (after those around 4 hours).
When you die, the entirety of your brain is equivalent to the central area, the ground zero of a stroke, just in terms of oxygen deprivation.
It’s a whole other ballpark. Cryonics after more than a few minutes should be called MangledBrainFreezing, it’s just that different.
I can’t fathom why people who supposedly whole-heartedly (whole brainedly) invested in cryonics don’t find ways around such simple barriers as autopsy regulations. (Simple because even if as an alternative there’s only 1 state in the US, and a couple European countries, really how many workarounds do you need? Just one.)
Not taking care of that eventuality only makes sense to me if in fact the investment for psychological reasons outweighs the actual credence one lends to cryonics. I realize that doesn’t apply to all subscribers.
If you had picked a state at random, Occam’s Razor (or Bayes rule or whatever) would have applied. Given that someone was providing you with an example of a state without suicide autopsies, you should update significantly less on other states having that property.