LessWrong readers are about the only group of humans on the planet that I can see explicitly describing such rules and then making them work. It is far more common to end up with this kind of arrangements but put up some façade to save face.
Yup. Really, I did nothing more than describe elements of the old-fashioned class system and the timeless informal status system, with a few bells and whistles.
Nah. Many creepy behaviors, like boxing people in and ignoring reluctance, convey “I have high enough status not to fear the social cost of this behavior; if you try to punish me for it, everyone will be on my side”. This is high-status. Some creepy behaviors, like the creepy monotone, convey “I am unable to conform to many social norms”, which causes and signals low status.
It’s complicated—my impression is that there are a lot of low status people (including most low status men) aren’t seen as creepy. There’s something additional—body language? postural?-- and I’ve never seen it adequately defined or described.
LessWrong readers are about the only group of humans on the planet that I can see explicitly describing such rules and then making them work. It is far more common to end up with this kind of arrangements but put up some façade to save face.
Yup. Really, I did nothing more than describe elements of the old-fashioned class system and the timeless informal status system, with a few bells and whistles.
Except that in mainstream caste systems, behaviors considered ‘creepy’ because they signal low status, not the other way around.
Nah. Many creepy behaviors, like boxing people in and ignoring reluctance, convey “I have high enough status not to fear the social cost of this behavior; if you try to punish me for it, everyone will be on my side”. This is high-status. Some creepy behaviors, like the creepy monotone, convey “I am unable to conform to many social norms”, which causes and signals low status.
It’s complicated—my impression is that there are a lot of low status people (including most low status men) aren’t seen as creepy. There’s something additional—body language? postural?-- and I’ve never seen it adequately defined or described.
More like “I have high enough status that you will actually want this”.
Creepy is when it turns out the person doing this actually didn’t have high enough status.