Substitute in correlate for constitute (which is what I was already doing; I assumed “part of” meant “projection of my multi-dimensional evaluation onto non-misogyny dimension), and my point remains the same.
Similarly, women don’t necessarily want to be abused. But some quality that women want very much correlates strongly with being abusive. They have to figure out what it is, and give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
I bet that [restated] female receptivity to mistreatment [/restated] goes way back in mammalian evolution. It’s common in mammals for “courtship” of a female to consist of a strange new male beating up and driving off the female’s mate, then killing her children, then immediately mating with her. Evolution must have programmed females to be sexually receptive to this. In a violent world, it’s in her genes’ best interests (if not her own) to make her mate with the winner.
I’m not allowed to respond to any other comments to mine, by the fascist group-norm-enforcing requirement to give up 5 karma that I don’t have. So I’ll respond to the comment below here:
To paraphrase a discussion that went on in a different thread a few months ago… Nerds in school don’t necessarily want to be bullied. But they do want to study physics and watch anime, which correlates strongly with being bullied. They have to give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
That isn’t at all the same. The nerds want the bullies to leave them alone. It’s an involuntary association. The woman dating an abusive man chose that man, and could usually leave him if she chose to.
What people want and what they evolved to do are separate: Irrelevant. I’m making an evolutionary argument to support evidence from observation that women have a mate preference correlated with abuse.
Similarly, women don’t necessarily want to be abused. But some quality that women want very much correlates strongly with being abusive. They have to figure out what it is, and give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
To paraphrase a discussion that went on in a different thread a few months ago… Nerds in school don’t necessarily want to be bullied. But they do want to study physics and watch anime, which correlates strongly with being bullied. They have to give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that if a woman finds that sexy non-abusive men are rare and usually already taken, then the best thing she could do is whine about it; but I can see where she’s coming from, and I wouldn’t blame her if she doesn’t unreluctantly opt to pursue a non-abusive man even if he’s not sexy, even though it may be the least of three evils. (The women I personally know typically opt to stay single until the right man comes along, but they might not be representative of the population in general.)
I bet that some female enjoyment of abuse goes way back in mammalian evolution. It’s common in mammals for “courtship” of a female to consist of a strange new male beating up and driving off the female’s mate, then killing her children, then immediately mating with her. Evolution must have programmed females to be sexually receptive to this.
Note Berkson’s paradox in action: even if two desirable features are independently distributed among the general population, among the people who are neither so good that they’re already in a decade-long awesome relationship with someone else nor so bad that you won’t even notice them when looking for potential males those features will end up anticorrelating.
Substitute in correlate for constitute (which is what I was already doing; I assumed “part of” meant “projection of my multi-dimensional evaluation onto non-misogyny dimension), and my point remains the same.
Similarly, women don’t necessarily want to be abused. But some quality that women want very much correlates strongly with being abusive. They have to figure out what it is, and give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
I bet that [restated] female receptivity to mistreatment [/restated] goes way back in mammalian evolution. It’s common in mammals for “courtship” of a female to consist of a strange new male beating up and driving off the female’s mate, then killing her children, then immediately mating with her. Evolution must have programmed females to be sexually receptive to this. In a violent world, it’s in her genes’ best interests (if not her own) to make her mate with the winner.
I’m not allowed to respond to any other comments to mine, by the fascist group-norm-enforcing requirement to give up 5 karma that I don’t have. So I’ll respond to the comment below here:
That isn’t at all the same. The nerds want the bullies to leave them alone. It’s an involuntary association. The woman dating an abusive man chose that man, and could usually leave him if she chose to.
What people want and what they evolved to do are separate: Irrelevant. I’m making an evolutionary argument to support evidence from observation that women have a mate preference correlated with abuse.
To paraphrase a discussion that went on in a different thread a few months ago… Nerds in school don’t necessarily want to be bullied. But they do want to study physics and watch anime, which correlates strongly with being bullied. They have to give it up. Or keep it, and stop complaining.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m not saying that if a woman finds that sexy non-abusive men are rare and usually already taken, then the best thing she could do is whine about it; but I can see where she’s coming from, and I wouldn’t blame her if she doesn’t unreluctantly opt to pursue a non-abusive man even if he’s not sexy, even though it may be the least of three evils. (The women I personally know typically opt to stay single until the right man comes along, but they might not be representative of the population in general.)
Downvoted for this alone. What people want and why they evolved to want that are separate questions.
Note Berkson’s paradox in action: even if two desirable features are independently distributed among the general population, among the people who are neither so good that they’re already in a decade-long awesome relationship with someone else nor so bad that you won’t even notice them when looking for potential males those features will end up anticorrelating.