Here are some possible solutions to this problem that I think will work better than trying to get people to bind “meta-honesty” to the full definition:
- You could use a name that references the source, like “meta-honesty in the sense of [source]” or “[source-name]-meta-honesty”.
- You could use a longer name that captures more of the nuances you bolded, like “meta-honesty with object-level normalcy”, or something else that resonates better for you.
Thinking a bit more, I think meta-honesty is most useful if it means “honest about when you’re honest” (“honest about meta-level questions” doesn’t actually seem that important a concept at first glance, although open to counterarguments)
I think the thing Eliezer was aiming at in Meta Honesty should probably just be called “Eliezer’s code of honesty” or something (which features meta-honesty as one of it’s building blocks). I agree “meta honest” doesn’t sound like a term meaning the thing Eliezer was aiming at (which was more of a code to follow, than a property of a type of statement)
Here are some possible solutions to this problem that I think will work better than trying to get people to bind “meta-honesty” to the full definition:
- You could use a name that references the source, like “meta-honesty in the sense of [source]” or “[source-name]-meta-honesty”.
- You could use a longer name that captures more of the nuances you bolded, like “meta-honesty with object-level normalcy”, or something else that resonates better for you.
Thinking a bit more, I think meta-honesty is most useful if it means “honest about when you’re honest” (“honest about meta-level questions” doesn’t actually seem that important a concept at first glance, although open to counterarguments)
I think the thing Eliezer was aiming at in Meta Honesty should probably just be called “Eliezer’s code of honesty” or something (which features meta-honesty as one of it’s building blocks). I agree “meta honest” doesn’t sound like a term meaning the thing Eliezer was aiming at (which was more of a code to follow, than a property of a type of statement)
Yep I agree with this whole-sale.