Sadly, LW isn’t a community that I would say that I am a part of. I say that begrudgingly, as LW seems to ‘have been’ and still is, ‘a decent place on the internet’.
The issue with being decent, is that it doesn’t work long term, at least not for me.
Why did other people leave LW before? I’m not sure. Why do I want to leave? And what drew me here in the first place?
I came here to seek for people with integrity, people thinking outside the box, highly intelligent and willing to both pursue their individuality and take/give feedback from equals/peers—with the intention of getting help, but also provide support in growing my own as well as the rationality/general intelligence/EQ/bigger goals of others, in a congruous, open-ended, honest, sincere and cooperative environment.
To take ideas, concepts and take them to their logical conclusion, is something I care about, and was hoping to find a community that is Congruous and Coherent according to its own explicit ideas and values, with enough discernment to make it work. This is a tall order perhaps, but I was hoping, when I found this place, that it was closer to that ideal.
From what I’ve seen, there might be a slightly higher population of the kinds of people I’m looking for here, but on the other hand, there is a wide gulf between what those people want and need to thrive, and the kind of environment LW is providing.
I’m not the most articulate in writing, but I wrote about this gulf of Who is LW for in some comments, and also a post called “The LW crossroads of purpose”. And, I see it as a very pressing matter, not only because laissez-faire seems to ruin subcultures, but because there are so many places on the internet where your average Joe can go, but so few where it seems those that crave high-end personal, rational, emotional development, can actually get support, and support each other. A place where integrity, respect and cooperation is a fundamental practice, and where things aren’t solved through “democracy”, but by finding the best way to go forward. A place that supports the creation of the very good/best, and not the decently/average+ good.
I’m not aware if those that ‘left’ LW went somewhere more coherent in this regard. Substack seems to be a place, but is there a ‘community’ out there waiting? At least not that I am aware of? Which means I would rather write this, and on the total off chance that this idea gets traction, and LW will have a “serious dojo” for rationality—with a high bar to entry, in a high trust environment that grows organically and slowly; I’ll at least hear of it, and might even want to join. I wouldn’t even mind if it had a subscription fee of sorts, and some of the members got paid. Why sweat the small stuff.
For now, I’ll stay in the shadows, and maybe look at older posts and see who was here before. Maybe some of them is someone I want to talk to.
Sadly, LW isn’t a community that I would say that I am a part of. I say that begrudgingly, as LW seems to ‘have been’ and still is, ‘a decent place on the internet’.
The issue with being decent, is that it doesn’t work long term, at least not for me.
Why did other people leave LW before? I’m not sure. Why do I want to leave? And what drew me here in the first place?
I came here to seek for people with integrity, people thinking outside the box, highly intelligent and willing to both pursue their individuality and take/give feedback from equals/peers—with the intention of getting help, but also provide support in growing my own as well as the rationality/general intelligence/EQ/bigger goals of others, in a congruous, open-ended, honest, sincere and cooperative environment.
To take ideas, concepts and take them to their logical conclusion, is something I care about, and was hoping to find a community that is Congruous and Coherent according to its own explicit ideas and values, with enough discernment to make it work. This is a tall order perhaps, but I was hoping, when I found this place, that it was closer to that ideal.
From what I’ve seen, there might be a slightly higher population of the kinds of people I’m looking for here, but on the other hand, there is a wide gulf between what those people want and need to thrive, and the kind of environment LW is providing.
I’m not the most articulate in writing, but I wrote about this gulf of Who is LW for in some comments, and also a post called “The LW crossroads of purpose”.
And, I see it as a very pressing matter, not only because laissez-faire seems to ruin subcultures, but because there are so many places on the internet where your average Joe can go, but so few where it seems those that crave high-end personal, rational, emotional development, can actually get support, and support each other.
A place where integrity, respect and cooperation is a fundamental practice, and where things aren’t solved through “democracy”, but by finding the best way to go forward. A place that supports the creation of the very good/best, and not the decently/average+ good.
I’m not aware if those that ‘left’ LW went somewhere more coherent in this regard. Substack seems to be a place, but is there a ‘community’ out there waiting? At least not that I am aware of? Which means I would rather write this, and on the total off chance that this idea gets traction, and LW will have a “serious dojo” for rationality—with a high bar to entry, in a high trust environment that grows organically and slowly; I’ll at least hear of it, and might even want to join.
I wouldn’t even mind if it had a subscription fee of sorts, and some of the members got paid. Why sweat the small stuff.
For now, I’ll stay in the shadows, and maybe look at older posts and see who was here before. Maybe some of them is someone I want to talk to.
Kindly,
Caerulea-Lawrence