Do you mean something like that if one has that many problems one could just walk away from them and become a bum...? I think that one could think that they or the world or some interaction of the two is the problem, and there’s no escaping from that by becoming a bum.
YMMV. Its not about rational proof, but rather what works for you. For YEARS the idea that before I would ever kill myself I would just go live under the boardwalk at Santa Cruz and drink 1⁄2 gallon bottles of red wine was an extremely comforting thought. In my later life as I have contemplated my own demise, I remember that and think how much harder it is now to take comfort from that, but not impossible.
In my case, I recognize any suicidal thoughts as just frustration, signalling, wanting to call the world’s bluff. I NEVER want to kill myself when I am happy, its not a rational thing at all.
Along these lines I would imagine bringing the person to a happier frame of mind. Explore things the person might want to talk about and get him talking about those. When we are intereacting we are connected, when we are connected we don’t generally want to be dead.
I am talking through my hat, I don’t know anything about these topics from any sort of study.
Do you mean something like that if one has that many problems one could just walk away from them and become a bum...? I think that one could think that they or the world or some interaction of the two is the problem, and there’s no escaping from that by becoming a bum.
YMMV. Its not about rational proof, but rather what works for you. For YEARS the idea that before I would ever kill myself I would just go live under the boardwalk at Santa Cruz and drink 1⁄2 gallon bottles of red wine was an extremely comforting thought. In my later life as I have contemplated my own demise, I remember that and think how much harder it is now to take comfort from that, but not impossible.
In my case, I recognize any suicidal thoughts as just frustration, signalling, wanting to call the world’s bluff. I NEVER want to kill myself when I am happy, its not a rational thing at all.
Along these lines I would imagine bringing the person to a happier frame of mind. Explore things the person might want to talk about and get him talking about those. When we are intereacting we are connected, when we are connected we don’t generally want to be dead.
I am talking through my hat, I don’t know anything about these topics from any sort of study.
This reminds me that I’ve read that for some people, having access to suicide is very comforting even if they never use it.