Yeah, I’m most familiar with Utah/Idaho Mormons who tend to be on the more extreme spectrum. The problem is that these are the guys who hold the power in the Church.
Something that hasn’t been mentioned is that Mormons give 10% of their income to the church. AFAIK, the vast majority goes into building and maintaining churches and large, extravagant temples, and a very small portion actually goes to real charitable work. If you could convince a Mormon to leave the church but still donate 10% of his income to a more effective charity, I think you’d end up doing a lot more good from a utilitarian perspective.
It’s also pretty well-known that the state of Utah has an abnormally high rate of mental illness, and a lot of people suggest that Mormons often claim that they’re a lot happier than they really are. I tend to agree: as a Mormon, you’re taught all the time about how the Church is so great and how it’s the best path to happiness, so you’re naturally going to want to appear happy to other people.
My hunch is that Mormonism tends to make certain people a lot happier and other people more depressed. I definitely fell into the latter group—when I was Mormon I was constantly wracked with guilt because I—gasp—masturbated. At the same time, because I held the Mormon priesthood, I was essentially told that I had magical powers, and that I had more authority to act in God’s name than the Pope. So I think for some people Mormonism is a big guilt trip, and for others it’s a big power trip. Both are unhealthy.
From a relatively outside view (my upbringing was semi-secular Jewish), belief in heaven and hell is really strong stuff for some proportion of people—I’m not sure how high the proportion is, but people can make themselves acutely miserable from fear of hell and/or fear of not getting into heaven.
To be fair to Mormons, they don’t have the concept of an eternal hell like most Christian fundamentalists. There is something called “outer darkness”, but you’d have to work really, really hard to get there—like, harder than Hitler.
To be fair, some people can also make themselves acutely miserable from fear of not being asked to the prom. It’s hard to overestimate people’s ability to make ourselves acutely miserable; it’s not entirely clear to me that the causes we attribute that misery to are at all causal to it.
Yeah, I’m most familiar with Utah/Idaho Mormons who tend to be on the more extreme spectrum. The problem is that these are the guys who hold the power in the Church.
Something that hasn’t been mentioned is that Mormons give 10% of their income to the church. AFAIK, the vast majority goes into building and maintaining churches and large, extravagant temples, and a very small portion actually goes to real charitable work. If you could convince a Mormon to leave the church but still donate 10% of his income to a more effective charity, I think you’d end up doing a lot more good from a utilitarian perspective.
It’s also pretty well-known that the state of Utah has an abnormally high rate of mental illness, and a lot of people suggest that Mormons often claim that they’re a lot happier than they really are. I tend to agree: as a Mormon, you’re taught all the time about how the Church is so great and how it’s the best path to happiness, so you’re naturally going to want to appear happy to other people.
My hunch is that Mormonism tends to make certain people a lot happier and other people more depressed. I definitely fell into the latter group—when I was Mormon I was constantly wracked with guilt because I—gasp—masturbated. At the same time, because I held the Mormon priesthood, I was essentially told that I had magical powers, and that I had more authority to act in God’s name than the Pope. So I think for some people Mormonism is a big guilt trip, and for others it’s a big power trip. Both are unhealthy.
From a relatively outside view (my upbringing was semi-secular Jewish), belief in heaven and hell is really strong stuff for some proportion of people—I’m not sure how high the proportion is, but people can make themselves acutely miserable from fear of hell and/or fear of not getting into heaven.
To be fair to Mormons, they don’t have the concept of an eternal hell like most Christian fundamentalists. There is something called “outer darkness”, but you’d have to work really, really hard to get there—like, harder than Hitler.
To be fair, some people can also make themselves acutely miserable from fear of not being asked to the prom. It’s hard to overestimate people’s ability to make ourselves acutely miserable; it’s not entirely clear to me that the causes we attribute that misery to are at all causal to it.