Richard,
is he burden of proof always upon the person proposing that something is impossible when it looks like it might be possible? You are after all trying to use this item to prove something and it is a scenario constructed carefully by your own side of the argument to be almost impossible to disprove. I would think you carry the burden of showing that it is extremely likely to be ideally conceivable—something I think you are very far from doing because of more or less the sort of argument made in the main article above.
2) That is, it’s “miraculous” in the same sense that it’s “miraculous” that our universe is fit to support life.
is it not conceivable (in the sense that you refer to) that you could have qualia that don’t line up with the outside world? That is a situation where we are concious in such a way as we might reasonably be in that world (in the same way that we obviously can’t be in a world where there is no conciousness) just not in a sense that looks like it has causality—ie you are a watcher of some actions but they are different from your desires—like how some people describe hypnosis but much more extreme.
anon,
> If it could be shown that I’m the only conscious person in this world and everybody else are p-zombies, then I could morally kill and torture people for my own pleasure.
that would seem to imply that if I don’t believe in qualia that I can kill and torture people… cripes.… sounds a bit like the “if there was no god we could all do anything” argument.
Richard,
is he burden of proof always upon the person proposing that something is impossible when it looks like it might be possible? You are after all trying to use this item to prove something and it is a scenario constructed carefully by your own side of the argument to be almost impossible to disprove. I would think you carry the burden of showing that it is extremely likely to be ideally conceivable—something I think you are very far from doing because of more or less the sort of argument made in the main article above.
2) That is, it’s “miraculous” in the same sense that it’s “miraculous” that our universe is fit to support life.
is it not conceivable (in the sense that you refer to) that you could have qualia that don’t line up with the outside world? That is a situation where we are concious in such a way as we might reasonably be in that world (in the same way that we obviously can’t be in a world where there is no conciousness) just not in a sense that looks like it has causality—ie you are a watcher of some actions but they are different from your desires—like how some people describe hypnosis but much more extreme.
anon,
> If it could be shown that I’m the only conscious person in this world and everybody else are p-zombies, then I could morally kill and torture people for my own pleasure.
that would seem to imply that if I don’t believe in qualia that I can kill and torture people… cripes.… sounds a bit like the “if there was no god we could all do anything” argument.